Case III, Radio calls

Hey all,

I was wondering, as per radio calls, when does the call in for the « Commencing » is made? Is it directly at the DME as starting the decent, or as you start the push rolling out of the holding and getting into the final bearing and pusing for the DME. is the leg prior to the DME considered into the holding pattern or is it part of the push start?

I'm wondering cuz from the tutorials i'Ve seen, the call is made as the descent starts, but the thing is, when stacked at angel 6, the time it takes from descending from angel 6 to angel 5 (plateform) is quite fast, with the speed ATC replies and our pilot, the commencing calls, the check in call and the plateform call all 3 overlaps forcing to cut all conversation to start the next radio call. In other words, is the pushtime at the DME for descent or rolling out of the holding and getting into the final bearing.

Thanks.

Call commencing when you commence the descent (which is at your assigned fix).