Lehmen Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I am sure they are probably appealing to the Russian market first and foremost. Probably they are. But the money are on the Western market, not Russian, so I guess they can't just ignore it. VKB have great products, but with some weird decisions. As an example, trim hat on their MCG, already mentioned. Another one, slew stick on MCG. It look cool and comfortable to reach, but it works somehow strange. I ended up with using factory slew control on Warthog throttle. Which is terrible, but still feels much more natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidRider Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Judging from the work that's being done, the comments by UIV on that russian forum, looks like this is going to be an awesome piece of kit. Hopefully available somewhere in the not too distant future. CH throttle will have to do in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Image from VKB forum testing ergonomics: 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltat_cum_mortem Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Glad too see it. It looks like a few interesting changes have been made. Sent from my Moto Z2 Play using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 After waiting more than one year to order a Gunfighter Pro MCG only to constantly see "Out of Stock" on the North American VKB website, I fear the polar ice caps will melt and we will meet Kevin Costner in WaterWorld before you can actually place an order for a VKB throttle and have it arrive at your doorstep in North America. (or at least by boat after the caps melt) I really hope not. Watching him drink his pee once was enough to convince me we needed to stop global warming 0.0 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 "Grandfather" of deskmount, by (VKB) Borada ~2004. :D Drawings and prototype of deskmount. https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/7776-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE-%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2/?do=findComment&comment=645044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Thanks Sokol! ;) For those who aren't seeing it on the photos linked above, there's also a 3D printed mock-up of the TECS throttle sitting there if you look closely. I've attached it here as well: PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33-DFTC Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The picture is so tiny, we (I) need a bigger resolution photo pleaaase ! I've been flying with the MCG Pro for 9 months now and I just can't wait to put my hands on the TECS. Thanks for the snippets of information) There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I agree - but sadly, until VKB HQ has something else to show, these little teases will have to do. (btw, I am in the same boat as everyone else - really looking forward to this one!) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Why not just post the model files themselves so we can print them out for our amusement ? :D i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGr124_boRada Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Poets, artists, and designers usually show finished works, not drafts. Yes? Otherwise we will discuss what has already been crossed out... http://JGr124.ru, http://vkb-sim.pro/ Тот, кто не любит кошек, в следующей жизни станет мышью... (с) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) I assume this throttle has an afterburner detent? If so, is it easily "removable"? I use this 3D printed detent in my TM WH Throttle: https://www.shapeways.com/product/UBB8WRU3A/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent-with-0?optionId=66710386 I keep the cover off the throttle so I can quickly remove that detent when I'm flying something that doesn't need it, and would in fact be a hindrance with it in, such as the Huey. Edited October 27, 2018 by HoneyBadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 TECS detent(s) still in discussion phase, too early for ask about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGr124_boRada Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I assume this throttle has an afterburner detent? If so, is it easily "removable"? I use this 3D printed detent in my TM WH Throttle: https://www.shapeways.com/product/UBB8WRU3A/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent-with-0?optionId=66710386 I keep the cover off the throttle so I can quickly remove that detent when I'm flying something that doesn't need, and would in fact be a hindrance with it in, such as the Huey. https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/ http://JGr124.ru, http://vkb-sim.pro/ Тот, кто не любит кошек, в следующей жизни станет мышью... (с) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGr124_boRada Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 TECS detent(s) still in discussion phase, too early for ask about. Yes, it is, but something has even been printed on a 3D printer and tested http://JGr124.ru, http://vkb-sim.pro/ Тот, кто не любит кошек, в следующей жизни станет мышью... (с) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Here's another tidbit shared originally in the Russian IL-2 forums by BoRada; still 3D printed for research and development, but a nice look at the envisioned detent solution and palm-release-plates to lift the throttle grips over these detents (yes, I say detents as there can be more than one detent installed by the user, in different positions, along each throttle axis). This photo ties nicely into the concept art above. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) VKB have great products, but with some weird decisions. As an example, trim hat on their MCG, already mentioned. Another one, slew stick on MCG. It look cool and comfortable to reach, but it works somehow strange. I ended up with using factory slew control on Warthog throttle. Which is terrible, but still feels much more natural. I have to take it back. Since I get more familiar with VKB config utility, there is absolutely no problems with VKB controls: it do exactly what I want and how I want. Edited November 21, 2018 by Lehmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streakeagle Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I love the MCG setup. I run only the default configuration for all of my sims. Any customization I need I provide from within the sim. Any design can be improved, but the MCG can mimic any Warthog stick setup AND support Russian stick setups. The Warthog grip is still better for the F-16 and A-10 because of the native arrangement of the hats, but in pretty much any other aircraft I fly, the MCG can mimic the real stick and still leave me some extra buttons/hats to provide some extras like knee pad control and show pilot toggle. The VKB throttle setup looks very nice, too. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Here's another tidbit shared originally in the Russian IL-2 forums by BoRada; still 3D printed for research and development, but a nice look at the envisioned detent solution and palm-release-plates to lift the throttle grips over these detents (yes, I say detents as there can be more than one detent installed by the user, in different positions, along each throttle axis). This photo ties nicely into the concept art above. Am I correctly understanding that these would be on the back of the throttle and pushed down to activate, as opposed to Western-style finger-lifts on the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb71 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Take a look at the images from the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Palm or thumb operated detents lifts. This option leave more space in front of grip for buttons/HATS/Slew/Dial and contribute for keep overall throttle design low, ideal for desktop use. Seems that VKB major compromise is usability and not "western or eastern" designs. :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 This proposed revision looks as if it would be an improvement for VR users. Looks like it'd be more intuitive when "under the hood". This will likely be my next HOTAS purchase. (patience is a virtue) ;) Images found here. That does looks great for VR users. In the future when we have the "hand movement" with VR (like currently with Oculus Touch and coming PointCTRL https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=218861) we do not need throttle to have all the possible controls from the cockpit. Simply a good throttle with the throttle buttons, dials, hats etc is required and the base can be left as much as possible clean. And that version above is exactly something about that. The 4x4 button layout and few rotaries are good to have little flexibility on some modules but otherwise you just move hand and operate the cockpit itself. So you can even bind those extra functions to other things like a overall volume control on computer etc so you don't need to "step out" from the VR. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Looks very nice indeed and is tempting I wonder what the throw or total throttle travel length is? It looks quite long & the longer the better. I had reservations on the Virpil as the throw looked a little short. I don't have a preference on linear Vs arc travel & don't care if it mimics a real aircraft throttle or not, as long as it's comfy and ergonomic. I'm currently using the hog throttle but very rarely fly the hog in the sim Wonder what the materials are especially the throttle handles. I just hope they make them in sufficient quantity as that is currently VKB's Achilles heel Edited December 4, 2018 by Weegie spacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniron Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Looks very nice indeed and is tempting I wonder what the throw or total throttle travel length is? It looks quite long & the longer the better. I had reservations on the Virpil as the throw looked a little short. I don't have a preference on linear Vs arc travel & don't care if it mimics a real aircraft throttle or not, as long as it's comfy and ergonomic. I'm currently using the hog throttle but very rarely fly the hog in the sim Wonder what the materials are especially the throttle handles. I just hope they make them in sufficient quantity as that is currently VKB's Achilles heel Likely the same quality plastic as the MCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I sure hope not, I’m not the biggest fan of the MCG plastic. It feels very thin and brittle, instead of dense and solid. They need plastic with a higher amount of fiber reinforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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