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Old 10-19-2020, 05:53 PM   #71
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The Hornet modeled in DCS could actually sustain higher turn rates than a Block 50 Viper. This is based on real world flight test. In an old document about the Super Hornet and the -402 motored Hornet you can see the 2 AAM 50% fuel sustained turn rates and when you look at the Hornet vs the HAF Block 50 Viper manual the Hornet does better at low altitude but worse as altitude goes up.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:00 PM   #72
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Yeah, Hornets aren't happy up high but you won't find a good Hornet pilot up there in a turn fight.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:08 PM   #73
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Call me crazy, but doesn't this EM chart show 9g at 430 knots at sea level, with about 23deg/s sustained turn? (this is the ps = 0 line)

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Oh boy, our Viper would be a dogfighting monster then. I hope ED continues to work on the flight model.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:18 PM   #74
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Gavagai, be careful posting charts like that, remember rule 1.16.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:20 PM   #75
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Gavagai, be careful posting charts like that, remember rule 1.16.
Crap, are you serious? I can get in trouble for posting random EM diagrams from the internet?
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:25 PM   #76
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@hummingbird: How do you "ban" the paddle on your server? By just advising the people not to use it? Or is there an actual code for that?
Well firstly we rely on honesty and good sportsmanship, if that doesn't work then we're helped by the fact that abuse of the paddle is incredibly obvious.

In our competitions however we go a step further and have a guy monitor the aircraft, looking for large overshoots in G that are sustained. Brief spikes in G I don't call as a breach of rules, since they have no effect on the fight anyway and could easily be due to a lot of other technical reasons.
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Old 10-19-2020, 06:28 PM   #77
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Crap, are you serious? I can get in trouble for posting random EM diagrams from the internet?
Yeah, I've been in trouble quite a few times now because of it, as it's not easy to determine what is allowed and what isn't. I've posted several such charts one day (that are still left standing), only to get warned and my post removed the next for something similar. So to be safe I'd just refrain from posting any charts tbh, that's the conclusion I've come to atleast.
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Old 10-19-2020, 08:45 PM   #78
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I'm not dogfighting in the Viper until the flight model is fixed & basically finished. Not interested in learning bad habits.
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