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Old 03-21-2020, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default ASM for FC3 russian aircrafts

Hello ED

just simple question, any plans to implement advanced systems modeling / clickable cockpit for FC3 module aircrafts?

These are the core and history of this simulator , we should not forget to refurbish these and bring to the latest technologies used here.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:34 AM   #2
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This is seemingly asked every day, and for Russian aircraft the answer is definitely not due to legal issues with the Russian government.
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:13 AM   #3
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#1 FC3 aircraft are not intended for full modeling, and thus will never receive it on their own. Full stop.

#2 If you're asking if any of the aircraft featured in FC3 may someday be the basis of a full module, the answer is "probably". The A-10 (albeit C variant) is available, afterall. F-15 is a likely subject sooner or later, as well (the E Strike Eagle variant is being worked on by RazBam).

#3 For Russian aircraft, ED is unlikely to do it themselves as they reside in Russia and the government there complicates some things. It is more likely a 3rd party developer like RazBam, Heatblur, etc etc will make such a thing as they live outside the country and are less likely to have to deal with "politics".
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Old 03-22-2020, 08:27 AM   #4
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I agree with Kengou that Russian MOD may not have so much to do with it. Obviously no 35 MiG or Sukhois but I bet OG vanilla and SM and 29K might be possible.

The Brits are supposedly also very secretive, and VEAO was able to agree with them to do Eurofighter! Tranche 1 of course, but it’s VEAO, like what the hell convinced them??? Maybe they played the Hawk and realized there was nothing to worry about as far as fidelity!
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Old 03-22-2020, 10:42 AM   #5
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They are not investing in WW2 soviets aircrafts either, also they are not trying to make a map to justify the soviets WW2 battles against the best Luftwaffe pilots the majority were shot-down in the East-front. this is the best proof you can see is nothing to do with Russian government as they are mention above. They are not investing in nothing about Russian hardware because they just are not interesting for.
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Old 03-22-2020, 02:08 PM   #6
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really pitty, i love to fly russian planes. my question really was about to update russian planes.
but ka50 is up to date and wondefull so dont understand ... but ok. i will have to fly that capitalistic scrap from time to time ...

thank you for information guys
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The usual story that gets told here when someone says “but Ka-50 is modern” is that it was before the military technology and information law got passed and that the Russian MOD was unprepared for how detailed it was and taken off guard and decided to stop it. Whether that’s a tall tale or not who knows
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well OK, on the other hand if there is some Russian law to restrict these information, we have no chance to change something. We can only respect it. On the other hand, capitalistic planes on FC3 is an old scrap. 50 years old steel, so ...
OK, makes no sense to write anything else here
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Old 03-23-2020, 06:03 PM   #9
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NATO aircraft? Yes, I'd be surprised if we don't get some sort of F-15C in the fullness of time.

Russian aircraft? Probably not, due both to the classification of aircraft still in use with the VKS and also an economic argument - it appears that the majority of private citizens who are customers of ED favour western aircraft types, therefore not justifying the cost of developing full fidelity modern Russian aircraft.

Personally I'd love to have a DCS: Su-27SM but I understand that sadly this will probably never happen.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:31 AM   #10
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Whether this is baseless or not I think it's simply to down to any eastern aircraft being less financially viable than NATO aircraft.

In terms of WW2 all the most iconic aircraft are american, british or german built. Hardly a surprise considering the doctrine the russian aircraft design of the era. Not a surprise they are putting a huge investment in developing modules that probably have a significantly higher fan base (= more sales).

Now put that in modern context, even if by a smaller margin I still expect NATO aircraft have a bigger fanbase and more often than not these people have also significantly better circumstances to be able to afford such "luxury" as buying a simulation software and equipment for it, not to mention the time spent. In comparison I hear some communities in China / Serbia / etc. still flying 1.5 or FC2 because they cannot afford the hardware for current DCS..

Obviously this is just a general feeling and I don't have data, but I'm quite certain ED does on what's a good financial investment and what's just an unnecessarily high risk.


On another note, stating that a certain development path is impossible due to legal limitations saves them a lot of harassment (or not, so it seems, hence these threads) over stating it won't be done due to financial reasons.
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