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Old 02-16-2019, 06:20 PM   #1
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Default DCS, AV-8B Harrier, CCRP Dive Toss.

My version.


My memory aid procedure. The Harrier doesn't have this form of bombing implemented, so I'm using an alternative, less accurate version, used for attacking AAA and man-pad defended targets, without overflying. CCIP would be suicide, (AAA is disabled for this attack). 005, should read 50 ft spacing. CCRP replays don't work, so AIH cockpit view only.








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Old 02-16-2019, 07:53 PM   #2
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I’m going to analyze this, thank you.


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Old 02-17-2019, 02:06 AM   #3
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I’m going to analyze this, thank you..
Dude, S2A IR can't track over 540kn or 12000ft. Neither can a Tor.
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:53 PM   #4
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Useful technique where several hundred feet margin of error is acceptable

In all seriousness though I've been doing this bodge CCRP toss bombing for quite a some time seeing as it's the only option giving the glacial rate of progress to getting the actual loft bombing profile.

It's pretty much useless with iron bombs unless it's a VERY specific circumstance (i.e. no wind and a loooooong convoy conveniently on a bridge) and even then there's always a much much better way to go about destroying the target.
LGB lobbing is a good laugh and great if your target is behind a ridge with a JTAC involved or a buddy lase who's above the target threat envelope.

You just need speed over 500 and a pull up from 4-5 mile away, nothing technical to it.

Doesn't make up for the fact we have no functioning loft bombing profile... still
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:06 PM   #5
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For a convoy I use clusters, as you don't need to be quite so picky for accuracy.
In this case, the target is the bridge and only 1 bomb hit is required for success, hence the diagonal approach. The convoy is just a cherry.
So what is the alternative.
CCRP with a buggered ASL. WW2 style bombing at high alt. with less accuracy than a Lancaster.
CCIP Light Brigade, in a death slide into a hail of bullets and missiles.

LGB, Mav etc. Not my thing.


The only thing this lacks from a real CCRP Dive Toss, is an, in range cue, so I can live with that.
Trying to find the sweet spot for accuracy, is really good fun and is the kind of thing I enjoy.


Falklands style, hands on.



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Old 02-17-2019, 05:28 PM   #6
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I got into DCS for high level of sim accuracy. Not workarounds on a 69$ module and making my own solutions to mitigate shortcomings in the system modeling. While the technique might work and you are having tonsof fun with it, you will need to re-learn a lot when the systems work as they should. I rather wait for Razbam to overhaul the Harrier than learn wrong procedures.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:16 PM   #7
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I'm looking forward to it.


In the meantime, I'll do stuff and you can sit around and wait.









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Old 02-18-2019, 10:55 AM   #8
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I'm looking forward to it.


In the meantime, I'll do stuff and you can sit around and wait.









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The issue comes with the fact you're making excuses that do not need making for an incomplete module simply because you're indulging your Brit in the Falklands fantasy with it.

It's fine for you that you're immersed and entertain yourself with pretending like you're in a Sea Harrier, the ire comes when defending very poor conduct simply because you don't like the reality poking in the fantasy bubble that you've created for yourself around a half baked module.

These are work arounds for incomplete and/or broken systems that should be working by now, the fact you or anyone would be making 'tutorial' videos on how to work around missing features is in no way a positive thing.

We're all doing stuff, the difference is we're a bit fed up with the bodgejobs and have moved passed the point of being amused by them whilst you're still finding them so novel.
We want the stuff it could be doing and how it should be doing it and these hacks just highlight the missing capabilities of the aircraft that we should have by now.

You may well be satisfied with spending 50-60 odd on an AV8B Harrier module in order to just stick an RAF skin on and pretend like you're fighting Argentinians the 80's, most are not.
You may well be enjoying playing in the box that the Harrier came in, it's a great box, you have a marvellous imagination and that's great.

That doesn't mean everyone else who bought an AV8B should be satisfied with just the box, or should be happy that they can stick an RAF roundel on it and call it a day.

People want the Aircraft they paid for, not to be fannying around with half mile inaccuracies and missing range cues, borked ASL lines, non-existent loft profiles, broken radios, missing CAS pages, incomplete navigation, broken-fixed-broken features, sidearm volumes etc. etc.

Especially after this long.
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:48 PM   #9
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When you're in a bad place, imagine you're somewhere else.
At least it's given you a chance to vent.
The Harriers a great plane, but I wouldn't watch the next one if I were you.
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Can you post the mission? I want to try to get the targets in a 45 degree attack. Looks like fun.
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