Doesn't A-10C feel more flight capable in real life?

Ehh that's not really the case though for the range bit, the 14,15,16, and 18 all out range the A10. And the 15E has similar loitering time, more payload, and is much faster.

Meme's aside, youl seriously run out of gas even with EFT and that A10 will still be loitering on internal fuel alone, when youve declared bingo

Are there any r/l Hawg pilots who feel the actual jet is overpowered?

Yes he just posted a couple above yours.

No, I'm not the Habu that is the demo pilot LOL, but I do fly the Hawg and make Op. Bactria. And yes, the A-10 in the sim feels very sluggish and underpowered compared to IRL. I did respond in the engine performance thread. A few flights ago I noted down some engine performance parameters compared to airspeed to test in DCS. I have not been available to do the tests in DCS yet but I will let you all know what my findings are. I think possibly the biggest culprit is the drag index is FUBAR, especially when stores are equipped.

 

 

Regardless of the cause of the problem, from my expert opinion the DCS A-10C is confirmed sluggish.

Thank you for your service. And thank you for taking the time for testing and posting on these threads.

Yes he just posted a couple above yours.

Where does he say the actual r/l A-10 is overpowered?

#22

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? That's a strange interpretation/conclusion. Because the A-10 in DCS feels underpowered, it doesn't imply that the real one is overpowered.

#22

Nowhere in post #22 does he say the r/l A-10 is overpowered...

No it’s says it’s sluggish which is what this thread is abojt

No it’s says it’s sluggish which is what this thread is abojt

We are talking about 2 different things...

No it’s says it’s sluggish which is what this thread is abojt

No it's not. It's about both issues and in post 22 he wrote sluggish and underpowered.

No it's not. It's about both issues and in post 22 he wrote sluggish and underpowered.

Ok cool. Just like in the wing flex post for the Hornet, as another user put it, you are again fervently agreeing again. You must argue, even when others completely agree with you. So, I’m not wasting any more time agreeing with you. :doh:

I don't get it. Maybe it's a language problem. But underpowered and sluggish are two entirely different things. Whatever.

Many pilots seem to think it's underpowered:

and not built for speed and one of the biggest weaknesses of it is it's really underpowered and a lot of planes are but the a-10 is all about drag it is not sleek just the round blunt nose with a gun sticking out of it and all these things hanging off the wings and the more lift you create the more drag you create so we're creating a lot of drag and the motors themselves are not you know sleek or anything either and and it would be great if there was more thrust to push against all that drag

https://www.historynet.com/the-warplane-nobody-wanted.htm

But if the A-10 has a basic shortcoming, it admittedly is underpowered. A-10 pilots say the airplane has three power-lever positions: off, taxi and max power.

I'm thinking this is a language issue.

There has been a few AMAs on here where more than one real life Hog pilot has declared the DCS Hog as lacking in performance, engine power wise and airframe handling in high angle of attack flight regimes.

In other words, all up weight being equal, the DCS Hog goes slower and stalls earlier than the real thing.

The Demo birds we see at air shows are flying clean with maybe a half load of gas and no ammo in the gun either. They are also being max performed by high-time pilots who know the figures cold.

 

400-500kts IAS? No way...

 

In game, try flying into combat with load outs that are closer to “real world” (eg two Mavericks and not six...) and a couple of JDAMs. The A-10C can be a modern B-17 but it usually is not employed that way IRL.

The main difference in DCS is the flight structure has way more flex in it's wings and is not as rugged and stiff as you see in DCS. Nor do you ever see pylons stacked with 3 Mavericks, 3 bombs, and all the other mass quantity munitions.

The A10 is a workhorse but their wings suffer severe load stress when overloaded and you would almost never see them loaded like 90% of the community of DCS.

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LMAO. What makes you “feel” this way? The real A-10C has a cruise speed of 260Knots and a max do not exceed speed of 400 knots. As in during a dive don’t go that speed. You are feeling that the aircraft should go fast enough that it would cause the real thing to break up.

The aircraft's speed did not cause the aircraft to "breakup". It did have some issues where air would over power the hydraulics in earlier A10's and cause the aircraft to become uncontrollable in an over speed dive.

Some of that has been corrected and some of it has not.

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No, I'm not the Habu that is the demo pilot LOL, but I do fly the Hawg and make Op. Bactria. And yes, the A-10 in the sim feels very sluggish and underpowered compared to IRL. I did respond in the engine performance thread. A few flights ago I noted down some engine performance parameters compared to airspeed to test in DCS. I have not been available to do the tests in DCS yet but I will let you all know what my findings are. I think possibly the biggest culprit is the drag index is FUBAR, especially when stores are equipped.

 

 

Regardless of the cause of the problem, from my expert opinion the DCS A-10C is confirmed sluggish.

I would go further than just pylon drag and contribute it to the boxy block trimming to a stick over the subtle yoke..

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but engine performance feels normal to me...

There's an old post by Yo-Yo in here somewhere where he says the engine performance is within 5% of the real thing. So not that bad off IMO.

There's an old post by Yo-Yo in here somewhere where he says the engine performance is within 5% of the real thing. So not that bad off IMO.

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Been a bit, didn't knew this thread took off, I'll try out with all the advices and see how it goes.

It feels like its difficult to climb even with a clean aircraft, the plane starts to spin out if there are too many G's pulled. I feel like it should be easily capable of 400-550 knots and easily able to climb.

In AceCombat probably...but the real A10C max is about 381 knots with a never exceed speed of about 450 knots.

Try practicing to modulate your pulls on the stick to find the sweet spot on turns or pull-ups...I usually gradually pull till the horn and no further.

I feel like it should be easily capable of 400-550 knots and easily able to climb.

Yeah, you're wrong, though.

This is accurate.

 

The main difference in DCS is the flight structure has way more flex in it's wings and is not as rugged and stiff as you see in DCS. Nor do you ever see pylons stacked with 3 Mavericks, 3 bombs, and all the other mass quantity munitions.

 

The A10 is a workhorse but their wings suffer severe load stress when overloaded and you would almost never see them loaded like 90% of the community of DCS.

 

 

 

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not common, but has been utilized as recently as OIF apparently

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1958983&postcount=11

That's probably one of the design flaws that a new super warthog would fix, if that happens, these are compromises that shouldn't have happened, you're suppose to fit as much on and still work great, not barely at the limits, I see it everywhere in engineering how machinery is poorly designed for maximum loads, you can see trucks, and things constantly breaking down and all of this drama on the TV "Oh may gawd an excavator has broken down and now John will have to replace the rubber seal" well spfnškfdplasdmsdmk make the friggin thing stronger and up to standard for the conditions!!!!

The trucks, the machinery, it's all way below what is required to beat the Australian outback, for example. It's just such a pity how more than half of this worlds effort/time is wasted on using subpar solutions and nobody seems to notice it and keeps chugginn on losing nerves, why can't the freaking truck have a set of hydraulic legs to lift it up from the mud, and more set of legs to step by step go forward enough, one good pair of mehanics could do this as a custom mod on an existing truck in less than 1 month FFS, sometimes I feel like throwing the TV out the window or jump into it and LET ME FIX IT !!!