El Bastardo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I've bound the flaps switch to the flaps switch on my warthog throttle and when I move it too fast, it results in the cockpit switch to become desynchronized. Tested with multiple 3 position switches on the throttle and 3 position bindings for the hornet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 31, 2018 ED Team Share Posted May 31, 2018 I have been using the switch for some time, not had this issue, can I ask why you are moving it 'too fast' ? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I experienced the same thing yesterday. Because of that I pay extra attention now to not move it to fast when moving it from one end to the other at once. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreisch Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Confirmed, same thing. Using the warthog and the flaps switch (bind to flaps) Gesendet von meinem F5121 mit Tapatalk Ugly-Squadron GamestarPinboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bastardo Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) I have been using the switch for some time, not had this issue, can I ask why you are moving it 'too fast' ? When it's time to deploy flaps in the pattern, I just flick the switch all the way down. I mean, why would I want to do it slowly? I rather get my hand back on the throttle as quick as possible :) Other aircraft don't seem to have this issue, that's why I opened this thread. Edited May 31, 2018 by El Bastardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagg Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 When it's time to deploy flaps in the pattern, I just flick the switch all the way down. I mean, why would I want to do it slowly? I rather get my hand back on the throttle as quick as possible :) Other aircraft don't seem to have this issue, that's why I opened this thread. same problem doesn't happen with a-10c but I have to confess that I'm using T.A.R.G.E.T. for f-18 bindings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Happens to me, too. Especially when cleaning up after landing, flipping from full to auto, I find it often only goes to half. Have to switch again to make it register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chain Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Confirmed. I'm having issues with FLAP switch when quickly moving from FULL to AUTO. Usually the flap switch stops at HALF even though the physical switch is in UP (AUTO) position. System: Windows 10 | i7-7700K @ 4.5 Ghz | 32GB of RAM | Nvidia GTX 1080, 3440x1440 | DELL Ultrawide U3415W | Samsung 960 Evo M.2 and 2 TB Seagate Barracuda | TM Warthog Hotas | SLAW F-16 Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1 and HTC Vive PRO VR + High fidelity F/A-18C simpit :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grodin Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Confirmed. Control options does keep up even with fast flicks, but for some reason the hornet does not register too quick flicks of the switch. No issues in A-10. Happens with all 3-position switches if moving from one end to the other too quickly, but only in the hornet. Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_ Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 with flap switch at centre position I flick to UP binding it to AUTO/HALF. Then from centre to down binding to FULL. So far had no problems as you guys describe. I too generally go from Auto straight to full. i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bastardo Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 with flap switch at centre position I flick to UP binding it to AUTO/HALF. Then from centre to down binding to FULL. So far had no problems as you guys describe. I too generally go from Auto straight to full. If you bind it like this, you can't go from full to half, without having to go to auto first. For proper 3 position switch you need to bind Up to AUTO/HALF and Down to FULL/HALF. The issue is, that there appears to be limit to how fast you can toggle from AUTO to FULL and from FULL to AUTO. To me it looks like DCS doesn't recognize the change in states of the switch while the animation for the cockpit switch is running. Of course, this is just what I can see and the real issue could be something totally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derodo Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Yup. Same thing here. Going from “up (auto)” to “down (full)” doesn’t work. It leaves the flaps switch in the “middle (half)” position. Enviado desde mi iPhone utilizando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_ Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Someone attach a track file here and I'll take a look. i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bastardo Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 There you go. I'm always switching AUTO to FULL and back to AUTO. Slowly at first, then a bit quicker and it desynchronizes.3WaySwitchIssue.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_ Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 FIXED in beta update 5 :) i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bastardo Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Nice, but it's only fixed for the flaps. All the other switches still have that problem, maybe that fix can be applied to them as well. Attached a track where I'm using different 3 position switches on the warthog throttle to control different 3 position switches in the cockpit and they still desync.3WaySwitchIssuev2.trk Edited June 23, 2018 by El Bastardo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Estimate that switches are temporarily not receptive to inputs while they are transiting through states. Switch motion from state A to B to C will ignore the "to C" command if it is transiting from A to B and thus not listening for input at that time. That would not be a problem with one switch but the entire system which handles it. I can see no other proper way to handle this situation than to be receptive to new inputs at all times even when that input cannot be acted on immediately. "Switch1 go to state B" Switch1 going to state B "Switch1 go to state C" I am still transitioning from A to B so I cannot do that now but I will remember that command and execute it at the first opportunity. I have finished moving to state B so I can process the queued input. I am transitioning from B to C. I have finished moving to state C. And it's slightly complicated by the fact that the Warthog Throttle does not have 3 outputs on the flap switch. It can only have four events (not six): 1 Flap up switch is pressed 2 Flap up switch is released 3 Flap down switch is pressed 4 Flap down switch is released But that should be no problem as events 2 & 4 would be interpreted as "to B" by the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Well I have seen the same behaviour. Going from auto to full too fast will only get you half flaps. EDIT: 2 pages.....:doh: Good to see it fixed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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