Tactics against F-14B / AIM-54

Unless you want AIM-9X's to never hit, I don't think you want combat reliability rates modelled.

 

 

Since when are just a meager 2 known real world launches a statistically large enough sample to make such a bold statement with regards to judging its reliability?

 

And as an FYI out of the two examples, one did hit its target.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Kev2go

The real problem with aim54 is in the multiplayer. The lag doesn't allow you to take the maneuver at the correct timing. For example, if you pull a high g with j11a before 1 bar you're actually already dead but you haven't been notified yet.

 

Long time ago (FC2) the aim 54 couldn't pull so much g, but now it appears to be capable of tracking targets pulling 9g, therefore, now your evasive timing against the aim 54 has to be extremely accurate, also you must pull while being at best cornering speed. I believe the 54 will be fixed sooner or later as it doesn't seem to lose much speed while turning, and it actually taking an illogical turn for its speed and shape, the coanda effect wont be able to hold an object that heavy moving that fast with such small control surfaces.

 

For the time being consider it a fast amraam and try to account for the lag, turn 2 seconds before the appropriate timing or what ever timing that works with your connection.

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Yeah that work too. But only for 1 missile fired. You gotta be good to do it like that consistently. Nice skill, what's the altitude you normally stay at for the best notching results?

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You are not gonna do those maneuvers in an F/A-18.

Not necessary, got 9X.

Since when are just a meager 2 known real world launches a statistically large enough sample to make such a bold statement with regards to judging its reliability?

 

Congratulations - that was the exact point I was making.

Not joke question: Is it possible to shoot down the missile?

 

It does work against Mavs and HARMs so maybe you can shoot down a phoenix.

Not joke question: Is it possible to shoot down the missile?

 

It does work against Mavs and HARMs so maybe you can shoot down a phoenix.

 

Plenty of videos have shown it is possible. Not an easy task though.

Not joke question: Is it possible to shoot down the missile?

 

It does work against Mavs and HARMs so maybe you can shoot down a phoenix.

Yes it is. AIM-120 in visual mode and AIM-9X with boresight mode in the Hornet, ET or 73 in longitudinal or vertical scan mode, I've tried that against any SAM too succesfully. You have to be quick with a strong nerves lol. Its harder and almost guarantee death if the enemy spams you with more than one missile thou.

Not joke question: Is it possible to shoot down the missile?

 

Yes you can with IR A\A missiles:

 

Edited September 3, 2019 by max22

Flying in F/A-18C against a F-14 with AIM-54? Use your AIM-9X, fly straight to missiles and launch AIM-9X at them to destroy them in the air. You have more AIM-9X than they have Phoenix missiles and you can get close and just kill them.

 

No notching, no chaff, no flare... Fly straight at them!

 

And if you use JHMS and you know from where the missile is coming at you, you can spot it at the good time and launch a AIM-9X well off-axis and still destroy the missiles, while you keep pressing straight at the bogey.

 

There is nothing in AIM-54 that threatens a F/A-18C.

 

I haven't tested it on Su-27S or MiG-29S with R-73 and HMS, but you don't get same crazy loadout as Hornet does and you don't hear missile seeker tone as in hornet, as you have 4-5 seconds window to launch counter missile after tone.