Kev2go Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) Both variants are valid for their respectable eras. As for certain users preferring 1 version over the other, This is nothing new. Its also the same thing in every other discussion aircraft discussion. a Desire for additional variants from earlier time periods. F14A/B for the cold war nostalgia ( even if the latter has some features post 1990) and the later F14D which is representative of the technological modernization bringing parity to other gen 4 fighters of the time, and applicable in a post cold war era from early 1990s up to a mid 2000's time period into the early days of the GWOT. The F14D has appeal as it is for that reason the representation of the ultimate and final evolution of the tomcat. IN any case, considering that heatblur did express interest in continuing the tomcat journey, which implied they were interested or at least considering doing later tomcat variations in the future. Edited July 7, 2019 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 So HB has no intention of making the D at this point...or? I'd imagine we'll find out more after The release of F-14A,A-6ai and The HB Carrier? Hoping ? Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NineGzuz Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Sign me up for the F-14D :-) As much as I'm enjoying the F-14B, I do miss the more modern technology at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbisaur Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 If HB can make a F-14D for us, I would like to pay for it same amount of money as I paid for F-14A/B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenovia Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I'd instantly buy the F-14D if HB decided to pursue it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just imagine the salt that would flow if SuperTomcat's were running wild, the power and maneuverability we already enjoy with the Big Fighter, coupled with modern HUD, APG-71, JDAMs, Link16 - it would be glorious and I'd pay full module price happily. DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared9191 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just imagine the salt that would flow if SuperTomcat's were running wild, the power and maneuverability we already enjoy with the Big Fighter, coupled with modern HUD, APG-71, JDAMs, Link16 - it would be glorious and I'd pay full module price happily. DISCO Did the F-14D have a fly by wire flight computer also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Did the F-14D have a fly by wire flight computer also?I believe it had a DFCS, yes. I really enjoy flying the Cat as-is, and am not sure I would want the power-steering feel of the Hornet, but it probably would make employing all that power and the extremely clever aerodynamics the Turkey enjoys easier. I like the challenge of getting the most out of the Big Fighter without HAL 9000's help. DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I believe it had a DFCS, yes. I really enjoy flying the Cat as-is, and am not sure I would want the power-steering feel of the Hornet, but it probably would make employing all that power and the extremely clever aerodynamics the Turkey enjoys easier. I like the challenge of getting the most out of the Big Fighter without HAL 9000's help. DISCODfcs Is not fly-by wire Also the harrier has something similar and it is not fbw. However it is close in feelings to it R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Meta Quest Pro VPForce Rhino FFB, F-16EX Grip, Orion 2 Base, F-15EX Throttle, MFG Crosswinds v3, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 To clarify, courtesy of MATS: "The new flight control computer commands are designed to automatically apply anti-spin flight control inputs as angle-of-attack and yaw threshols are exceeded. The DFCS also includes aileron-to-rudder interconnect logic to minimize dutch roll characteristics and make heading control easier during landing." and "The DFCS will bring enhanced controllability and improved performance in the high angle-of-attack and landing envelope for F-14As, F-14Bs and F-14Ds. Handling qualities were already successfully demonstrated aboard USS Enterprise in October 1999 during numerous landing approaches." and "The DFCS will improve the F-14s maneuverability, survivability and reliability and will give the Tomcat an aid for spin avoidance. The pilots will be able to maneuver more aggressively in the flight envelope and also the landing characteristics will improve." So, technically, not FBW because the existing hydro-mechanical systems remained with physical connection between the pilot and the system, but it is performing most of the duties and protections that define modern FBW systems. http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-dfcs.htm DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belphe Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Full price from me towards the "D" as well.. Never say never, Baby! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 +1 on the "D" for me, too. In fact, make that +2. At full price (and by that I mean whatever Heatblur wants for it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWeasel303 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. System: Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo / Ryzen 5900X / 128gb Trident Z 3600mHz / ASUS TUF X570 / Lian Li Galahad 360 AIO / Asus Tuf RTX 3080ti / Asus Rog 1000w PSU / TM Warthog + TM Pedals Modules/Terrains: All but the Mig-19, MB-339, P-47, I-16, CE II, and Yak-52 IRL: USAF F-16C AGR Crew Chief / Private Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacoGrease Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I’ll buy 3, full price. Or blank check, whatever. We can make that legally binding. 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. I'm probably wrong, but from what I can find in terms of open source information, I don't think there is more documentation on the B available than the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearfoot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I’ll buy 3, full price. Or blank check, whatever. We can make that legally binding. :D :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwalker99 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I want the fkkin' Tornado ... ground attack version please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacoGrease Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Definitely the wrong thread xD I want the fkkin' Tornado ... ground attack version please.... 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiib Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. 100% agree, shame our relations with Iran are so crappy. C'est la vie... Did the AN/APG-71 have medium PRF? Is that classified i wonder? also, 10/10 would buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL0083 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 +1,alone with the STC21!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusedspine33 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Another +1 to a D version. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlift Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1 on the F-14 D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiib Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1 on the F-14 D guys, HB basically said it's not going to happen. They don't have the documentation for the systems to make it. It's all classified, since Iran still flies the 14A, and they're not exactly friends with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBird Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1,alone with the STC21!!! Oh yes, the Super Tomcat. There's certainly a ton of documentation about this totally real aircraft... You lot need to keep dreaming about the F-14D, maybe we'll see a few years after Iran scraps their Tomcats, maybe. For now, just be thankful that we have such an outstanding recreation of an actual historic jet. F-14 | F/A-18C | F-16C | AJS-37 | M-2000C | A-10C | UH-1H | F-5E | P-51 | Bf 109 Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Supercarrier YouTube | Steam | Discord: JayBird#4400 i7-7700K | GTX 980 | 32gb RAM | 500gb SSD | 2TB HDD| Track IR | TM Warthog HOTAS | Logitech Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 guys, HB basically said it's not going to happen. They don't have the documentation for the systems to make it. It's all classified, since Iran still flies the 14A, and they're not exactly friends with the US. Why the Iranian Alphas has anything to do with possibility of doing Delta? We already have B and soon we gonna get A, so? I don't care for the D, just curious... starting to hate the aircraft wishlist threads too :thumbup: Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M HOTAS FC3, F-14A/B, F-15E CA SC NTTR, PG, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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