Skulleader Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Hello, I have a question about the rudder of L-39, I link you a video where the rudder don't move or move just a little bit when these two L-39 turn to right. But with our L-39 when I turn to right the rudder move fully to right is it correct or just a little bug to fix ? Here on this video at 1:22 and 1:52 we can see the rudder who don't move and however the L-39 turn to right. [ame] [/ame] In advance thanks, Skull. Edited February 28, 2016 by Skulleader [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic93192_6.gif[/sIGPIC] My Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006748814655 My P-51D's Mod: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142739 One of my few skins : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1452845/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 good eye! AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) And here (at 0:34, 0:48 and 8:12) is a Czech L-39ZA with large rudder deflections as it follows the taxiway out of/into a hardened aircraft shelter. The Thai version of L-39ZA is the L-39ZA/ART and has Israeli Elbit avionics, so is probably quite a bit different to the L-39ZA modelled in DCS. Edited February 28, 2016 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulleader Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Hello guys, Thanks for your answers, And here (at 0:34, 0:48 and 8:12) is a Czech L-39ZA with large rudder deflections as it follows the taxiway out of/into a hardened aircraft shelter. Yes you have right with your video (I really like this video) I can see the large rudder deflection, it's a mistake from me. So our model is very good, just an error from me, thanks again. Skull [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic93192_6.gif[/sIGPIC] My Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006748814655 My P-51D's Mod: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142739 One of my few skins : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1452845/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Since the L-39 use the rudderpedals to control differential braking, I don't see how you can apply the differential brake without moving the rudder..? Do the Thai ZA have a different system? Toe brakes, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowen G. Bruère-Dawson Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Goblin, we can clearly see on the skull's video that Thai's ZA uses their rudder to control differential breaking. But its a very light deflection. Maybe some modifications to the hydraulic system or an advanced electronic management of hydraulics systems of the L-39ZA/ART make useless to turn the rudder to a large deflection, i don't know.. Or maybe wee don't need anyway to have a high pressure on the rudder to make a turn effective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeLKMT Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) ZA/ART steers with differential braking, but by using toe brakes, so they don't have to deflect the rudder. ;) Edited February 28, 2016 by GeorgeLKMT ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Goblin, we can clearly see on the skull's video that Thai's ZA uses their rudder to control differential breaking. But its a very light deflection Well, no... We see that the rudder moves very slightly when the aircraft turns. That does not mean that it is the deflection of the rudder that controls the braking. It could just be the pilot depressing the right toe brake and while doing so also deflect the rudder slightly. GeorgeLKMT is probably correct :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Here is a photo of L-39 ZA/ART cockpit with HUD/UFC, western-style instrumens and you can see toebrakes and removed gearbrake handle from the stick. Edited February 28, 2016 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Nice pit! So, toe brakes explains the difference :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulleader Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Here is a photo of L-39 ZA/ART cockpit with HUD/UFC, western-style instrumens and you can see toebrakes and removed gearbrake handle from the stick. Yes it's possible, maybe many versions of the L-39. It's more easy to turn with the toes than gearbrake. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic93192_6.gif[/sIGPIC] My Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006748814655 My P-51D's Mod: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142739 One of my few skins : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1452845/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's more easy to turn with the toes than gearbrake. Imho it is a matter of getting used to... :music_whistling::smilewink: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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