I suck at AAR

Lol might be my shitty logitech stick but I had to put curves of 40 to finally hit the basket intentionally XD.

 

Key tip: height of probe is same as top of hud. Align it with basket when close.

If you suck at AAR, you're doing it right. Just suck it all in and you're good to go! :smilewink:

so do i.....<and thats NOT funny > what should the curves be on the thrustmaster warthog throttle be for the BEST/Optimal results?

please pm me ..thanks in advance cheers!

I do not use any curves, I hooked up first try - (after using the quick fix for comms, etc) bounced around a bit, came unhooked several times. I may have benefited from practicing the last few weeks with all the other jets that are capable of AAR. The F-16 gets me frustrated, can not stay on the boom long enough sometimes to take fuel. I think after "mucho practico" it becomes easier. I take what seems like forever to creep up on the tanker, and have gotten better with my control inputs. Good luck, it is good fun for sure

I must have crossed caucasus coast 3 times entirely by now at 226kts.

I must have crossed caucasus coast 3 times entirely by now at 226kts.

 

 

 

 

Which tanker does the JF-17 use for AAR, Russian tanker or NATO?

The F-16 gets me frustrated, can not stay on the boom long enough sometimes to take fuel.

 

Is the additional grip modeled in the boom refueling? As once boom operator makes the contact with you, you can almost take hands off as you are now part of the tanker and you fly as one with it. It is often said that it is easiest way of refueling as your stick movements doesn't affect so much.

Set some curve and set the tanker at M0.7 should be better.

Which tanker does the JF-17 use for AAR, Russian tanker or NATO?

 

Im not entirely certain but since China had Jeff so I just put down a tanker and changed its faction to China. So pretty much any tanker you can put down with China.

Lol might be my shitty logitech stick but I had to put curves of 40 to finally hit the basket intentionally XD.

 

 

 

Key tip: height of probe is same as top of hud. Align it with basket when close.

You only need more times and practices. Just get the feeling of it. Trust me you'll get there eventually. I once was like you, AAR felt so frustating but not anymore.

Once you get lined up, engage Attitude Hold, which will significantly dampen stick response. Just make sure you don't move outside of the hold parameters.

Set some curve and set the tanker at M0.7 should be better.

 

Thanks for the tip, will try it :thumbup:

I find that AG1 or AG2 helps a fair bit as well

How so? Does it damped control? Didn't notice

I find that AG1 or AG2 helps a fair bit as well

 

I don't understand what you mean. AG1 and AG2 just limit the maximum Gs.

And how you get there, it needs to reduce overshoot as well, or atleast I assume.. I will try it clean though and see what difference it makes, but the dampened roll is a huge help

I dont use any of those tricks. I dont even use curve whatsoever, its all pure stock setting. As I said, it can be done with more practices. Using autopilot or whatever probably only making a bad habit. Practice makes perfect.

And an expensive hotas with 0 jitters. That helps too.

And an expensive hotas with 0 jitters. That helps too.

104th Maverick uses the same Logitech joystick as you do. Look at his all refueling video tutorials on Youtube.

Ok, so I tried to refuel with IL-78 and no problem. I tried with US counterparts and no joy, even tough there is a film on youtube where guy shows how to do AAR in JF-17 using KC-130. Is there something I need to configure in editor to be able to do that?

I did it with all planes as China faction. If that helps

Hello,

 

Air-Air Refueling was always a task that I had avoided on DCS, but now that I'm trying to edit a Training mission for AAR on the Jeff, I find that I suck at it too :cry:

 

 

 

 

I increased my Stick curves (previously I had it with no curves), and have tried half a dozen times without managing to plug the probe not even once :doh: .. I wonder how other people (like 104 Maverick) make it seem easy ... it is not.

 

Well, will keep practicing, but I'm taking a break now because my arm hurts (my TM Cougar has fairly stiff springs, it is a real workout flying in formation).

 

I'd love to hear from you guys, some more tips for learning this skill :thumbup:

 

Thanks,

 

 

Eduardo

My JF17 curves are only 5 for both pitch and roll.

 

For AAR, do your best to relax your grip. I consciously tell myself to relax my grip when AAR in any aircraft and flying helicopters. This technique usually helps with more precise, smaller movements.

Jeff is harder to refuel than any plane maverick flies. Hitting the basket is actually a lot more about fine throttle control than the joystick. And Jeff has a slow spooling engine so it requires even smoother throttle control otherwise it will easily over speed or lag.

It took me a while to figure out you need to push the basket in a bit to make some slack

Edited April 5, 2020 by AeriaGloria