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Old 01-06-2020, 01:14 PM   #1
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Finally put more fuel in than burned lining up. Needs more practice.

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Old 01-06-2020, 01:17 PM   #2
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:23 PM   #3
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Finally put more fuel in than burned lining up. Needs more practice.

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Just keep at it. Tiny stick adjustment after connection to the drogue. It would become second nature sooner than you know it.
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:29 PM   #4
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Finally put more fuel in than burned lining up. Needs more practice.
That's the way it should go. Keep at it. Pick a point of reference on the tanker and fly in formation with it. AAR is nearly mandatory for employing the Hornet in realistic missions.
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:45 PM   #5
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I guess good job.
Just do it every flight and it gets easy soon.
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:53 PM   #6
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Still waiting for that day to come, but I can see progress. I started out watching my airspeed on the HUD, but soon realized that I need to just relax and 'become one' with the tanker... flying with it and ignoring everything on the HUD. I now just dim the HUD down so it doesn't distract.
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Old 01-06-2020, 02:02 PM   #7
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Thanks for all the encouragement guys.


I watched every youtube video I could. All very helpful, but the one that cracked it for me was Cap's from grim reapers.
Big thanks to him.


tusker, keep at it, you'll get there.
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Old 01-06-2020, 06:47 PM   #8
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Old 01-06-2020, 07:23 PM   #9
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Took me something like 20 hours of practising to be somewhat decent at it. Usually 1-2 hours and then a break or called it a day. I practised a formation flying a little bit before though.
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Old 01-06-2020, 07:50 PM   #10
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For a good long time, I was kinda anxious about learning to refuel in DCS. I suppose it was probably because the online community surrounding DCS would often make a lot of fuss about how incredibly hard it is and how frustrating it can be. That rather negative, rather demoralizing view really stuck in without me really realizing it. For some years, I played DCS without even really trying it for myself to see what it was like. I just kinda took the internet's word on it and that word was discouraging to say the least.

When the Hornet first came out, it was clear that I was going to need to learn if I was going to do realistic/authentic feeling missions in it. There was no avoiding refueling in that kind of jet (at least not without seriously compromising mission authenticity). The first try was a disaster. I really didn't know what to expect (beyond the theory behind it) and while I was able to occasionally connect, it was usually in spite of myself and never for long enough to matter. After that session frustrated me to a immense degree, I decided it would be better to simply step away and try again tomorrow. Maybe something would be different.

The next day, I was surprised to find that it was a lot easier. It was still a challenge but I was able to do a full refuel after some effort. It wasn't perfect but it was a obvious step in the right direction. The day after that was even better. I continued my daily practice for some time and now I can refuel pretty reliably. I am still not perfect but I am okay enough to count on being able to refuel without a serious issue.

Interestingly enough, I recently took a jab at refueling the F-16 and the cycle kinda repeated itself in a way. I could do the basket and probe thing pretty well but flying the lights was a whole different ballgame and required a sort of "back to square one" approach. The first attempt was a frustrating disaster but the next day was a lot better. I just need to keep that practice up and I will eventually get it pretty reliably.

Additionally. I have found that it is a perishable skill. You do need to practice every now and again to make sure you still have it down. If you don't, things can get a bit frustrating when you come back to it.

If anything. Learning to refuel highlighted a pretty serious issue in the larger online DCS community. Sometimes the narratives surrounding DCS's difficulty do more to discourage than we perhaps think.
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