heroe Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) Hi, I'm aware of the current manual mode 4 interrogation in the hornet due to the automatic mode setting being in the AZ/EL page which is not implemented yet. However, in the real hornet when pilot commands STT, the CIT (combined interrogator transponder) automatically performs a mode 4 interrogation as a logic to avoid FF despite being in manual mode. This is not the case in the current open beta as shown in attached track, so when you command STT, the SA page still shows the L&S with a star symbol but with an ambiguous yellow HAFU. Hope track helps identifying the issue. Thanks as always! IFF STT Bug.trk Edited March 5, 2019 by heroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 You could save a bit a of time by watching Wag’s videos and reading the mini-update thread. What you are describing is not a bug...it’s not implemented yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroe Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 Hi Rain! Please note I clarified that I was aware of what you are saying, this is a different topic. The real hornet performs a mode 4 interrogation despite the setting being in manual mode like in DCS now, so it should be corrected as such to reflect correct behaviour during manual mode. Appreciate very much your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) I'm not near my PC right now so cant view the track but no offense just to make sure, have you turned the IFF On on UFC ? Edited March 6, 2019 by Oceandar Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroe Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 I'm not near my PC right now so cant view the track but no offense just to make sure, have you turned the IFF On on UFC ? Yes, of course, make sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroe Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 So the thread was labeled "correct as is" but as a matter of fact it isnt. I hope Mover could jump in here to clarify this so we can all enjoy the proper implementation. Beamscanner also confirmed that the L&S is always automatically interrogated no matter if the AZ/EL setting is in manual mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Unfortunately, I don‘t think ED listens to the expert opinion of real world pilots apart from their own SMEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 They do indeed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted March 6, 2019 ED Team Share Posted March 6, 2019 So the thread was labeled "correct as is" but as a matter of fact it isnt. I hope Mover could jump in here to clarify this so we can all enjoy the proper implementation. Beamscanner also confirmed that the L&S is always automatically interrogated no matter if the AZ/EL setting is in manual mode. It is indeed correct as is based on our documention. There is more than one auto-IFF mode available from the the AZ/EL page, one of which is the auto-AI with STT/L&S. As noted, we will implement this and other auto-AI modes once the AZ/EL page is implemented. For now, all IFF AI is done through manual which is perfectly accurate as is. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroe Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 It is indeed correct as is based on our documention. There is more than one auto-IFF mode available from the the AZ/EL page, one of which is the auto-AI with STT/L&S. As noted, we will implement this and other auto-AI modes once the AZ/EL page is implemented. For now, all IFF AI is done through manual which is perfectly accurate as is. Thanks Ok wags, I didnt have that info to be honest, good to know there is more than one auto mode. Do yoy know if we will be able to interrogate during STT? Right now if you lock someone during a dogfight you cant interrogate manually, you have to drop the lock. Thanks for dropping by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted March 6, 2019 ED Team Share Posted March 6, 2019 Ok wags, I didnt have that info to be honest, good to know there is more than one auto mode. Do yoy know if we will be able to interrogate during STT? Right now if you lock someone during a dogfight you cant interrogate manually, you have to drop the lock. Thanks for dropping by It's a known and reported issue. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroe Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 It's a known and reported issue. Wags, I could not find any thread with this issue reported. It is still present in current OB and havent seen any comment on whether it is going to be fixed or remain that way for some time. Would you be so kind to let me know if it will be fixed in the short term? Sorry for being pushy, this is a game breaker for me during close encounters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur81 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 There is more than one auto-IFF mode available from the the AZ/EL page, one of which is the auto-AI with STT/L&S. As noted, we will implement this and other auto-AI modes once the AZ/EL page is implemented. Thanks Thanks, Wags. What about an ACM, AUTO ACQ mode? if you're fighting with one of these and get a quick lock, does the radar automatically IFF interrogate? I ask because when you select any acm auto acq mode, the RDR ATTK page is automatically brought up. Does the pilot have the option to select the AZ/EL as default page in ACM rather than RDR ATTK page? If not, I guess I'm, again, just shocked that the APG-73 designers wouldn't offer an auto-iff to coincide with a basic radar lock. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmergloom667 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 If not, I guess I'm, again, just shocked that the APG-73 designers wouldn't offer an auto-iff to coincide with a basic radar lock. They have, that is e.g. auto IFF with STT, which is atm bugged and scheduled to be fixed, as Wags mentioned earlier. i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted March 19, 2019 ED Team Share Posted March 19, 2019 They have, that is e.g. auto IFF with STT, which is atm bugged and scheduled to be fixed, as Wags mentioned earlier. No, it is not "bugged". There is both manual IFF (what we have now), and multiple types of automatic IFF (like STT and ACM modes) that are enabled from the AZ/EL page. Once the AZ/EL page is added, we'll add the automatic IFF modes then. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmergloom667 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 No, it is not "bugged". There is both manual IFF (what we have now), and multiple types of automatic IFF (like STT and ACM modes) that are enabled from the AZ/EL page. Once the AZ/EL page is added, we'll add the automatic IFF modes then. Thanks Thanks for clarifying that - I think there is just a great deal of misinformation around due to the whole system being worked upon. I was referring to this post of yours, thinking that auto-IFF on STT (which was still the way to it a few weeks ago - lock target, have it be IFF interrogated) is bugged and returning with the March, 27th OB patch: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3825412&postcount=11 i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted March 19, 2019 ED Team Share Posted March 19, 2019 As we said at the start, the initial IFF was just a stop-gap until the more realistic system was implemented. The accurate system is now in the process of being implemented. Thanks Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmergloom667 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Brilliant, looking forward to how it all unfolds! Keep up the good work! :) i7 - 9700K | 32 GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 2080 | VKB Gunfighter Mk II /w MCG Pro | Virpil T-50CM2 Throttle | TrackIR 5 | VKB Mk. IV AJS-37 | A/V-8B | A-10C | F-14A/B | F-16C | F-18C | F-86F | FC3 | JF-17 | Ka-50 | L-39 | Mi-8 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19 | MiG-21bis | M2000-C | P-51D | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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