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Old 03-15-2019, 02:05 AM   #1
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Default Training mission Bombs/rockets problems

- I suggest to place a mark in the map showing where is the anchor point
- When using bombs and select a target wingspan of 30 meters (for the garage), and a dive angle of 30-50 meters, the Sight dissappear from HUD when is uncaged, and is not visible even when you are diving and close to the target. In order to make it visible, I have to press the quick cage button that I mapped in the stick like the real MIG.
- The same of above for rockets, in this case with a wingspan of 7 meters to engage the trucks
- No problems with the sight and cannons

Track below (Im using Oculus RIft)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkskxj8r1b...n.miz.trk?dl=0
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:47 AM   #2
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- I suggest to place a mark in the map showing where is the anchor point
- When using bombs and select a target wingspan of 30 meters (for the garage), and a dive angle of 30-50 meters, the Sight dissappear from HUD when is uncaged, and is not visible even when you are diving and close to the target. In order to make it visible, I have to press the quick cage button that I mapped in the stick like the real MIG.
- The same of above for rockets, in this case with a wingspan of 7 meters to engage the trucks
- No problems with the sight and cannons

Track below (Im using Oculus RIft)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkskxj8r1b...n.miz.trk?dl=0
Hi,do not vorry,because this mission is pure fiction.ASP-5 does not work like in real life.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:53 AM   #3
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ASP-5 does not work like in real life.
Can you please clarify this?
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:00 PM   #4
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Can you please clarify this?
Hi KOŠ this is video No.9 A/G GUNS,RKT,BOMIIRC.First action is bombing.ASP-5 need for bombing so-called bomb chart,so everything what pilot is doing(in video) is nonsense.MiG-19P have not possibility to drop bombs in single mode.Scale on the right side does not show dive angle,but aiming angle(0-11deg)

Second action is RKT firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for S-5 rocket automatically according ballistic properties of S-5 by switching from bomb(NR-30) to rkt

Third action is GUN firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for NR-30 automatically according ballistic properties of NR-30 by switching from rkt(bomb) to NR-30.
In all three cases is ASP-5 in uncage mode but the piper moves only NR-30 mode-nonsens.Uncage is still uncage, gyroscope is free so piper is moving.

Not good simulation of gyrosight.
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Hi KOŠ this is video No.9 A/G GUNS,RKT,BOMIIRC.First action is bombing.ASP-5 need for bombing so-called bomb chart,so everything what pilot is doing(in video) is nonsense.MiG-19P have not possibility to drop bombs in single mode.Scale on the right side does not show dive angle,but aiming angle(0-11deg)

Second action is RKT firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for S-5 rocket automatically according ballistic properties of S-5 by switching from bomb(NR-30) to rkt

Third action is GUN firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for NR-30 automatically according ballistic properties of NR-30 by switching from rkt(bomb) to NR-30.
In all three cases is ASP-5 in uncage mode but the piper moves only NR-30 mode-nonsens.Uncage is still uncage, gyroscope is free so piper is moving.

Not good simulation of gyrosight.
thanks !!!

Can devs please comment on this?
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:58 PM   #6
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Hi KOŠ this is video No.9 A/G GUNS,RKT,BOMIIRC.First action is bombing.ASP-5 need for bombing so-called bomb chart,so everything what pilot is doing(in video) is nonsense.MiG-19P have not possibility to drop bombs in single mode.Scale on the right side does not show dive angle,but aiming angle(0-11deg)

Second action is RKT firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for S-5 rocket automatically according ballistic properties of S-5 by switching from bomb(NR-30) to rkt

Third action is GUN firing.ASP-5 is capable to set aiming angle for NR-30 automatically according ballistic properties of NR-30 by switching from rkt(bomb) to NR-30.
In all three cases is ASP-5 in uncage mode but the piper moves only NR-30 mode-nonsens.Uncage is still uncage, gyroscope is free so piper is moving.

Not good simulation of gyrosight.
thanks for the info!
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Old 03-15-2019, 11:49 PM   #7
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Not good simulation of gyrosight.
The ASP-5N gunsight is working correctly in the air to air cannons mode, both in it´s radar and optic regimes. So, in this case it´s simulated correctly.

Regarding the rockets use, currently there are a few issues with its implementation that we are working as it should work the same as the cannon armament in the optic mode.

We have the information about how bombs are employed in the flight manual and also we have the ASP-5N technical manual, which get a little more deep into the bombing mode, but still there are some parts that are not clear. We are aware that the ANGLE selector is used to introduce "lead" during the bombs employment (from 0 to 11º) and this lead, the altitude and dive angle are taken from a dive bombing chart.

finger, if you happen to have more info in this matter, like: at what angle the sight deflects when put in bomb mode, have the actual bombing table for ASP-5N (We have the table for MiG-21 and 23 sights, but not MiG-19 and we are testing right now if it could be used for the ASP-5), also, why do you mention that only two rocket pods can be used when the manual states clearly that the aircraft can mount four, please PM me.
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