I admire the KA-50 but....

unfortunately she is everyone's B.

I spent hours and days making kneeboards, watching YouTube, doing online training and I really fell in love with the BS.

However, today I flew for roughly 30 minutes to get to my ground targets at an altitude between 5-15 meters and here came the SU-27 AI which had nothing better to do but set the radar elevation so low, and hit me with an R-73 missile.

[updated video] it's ridiculous how the su-27 was able to spot me!!!!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Avs44aXT6IfpvwZiOvRLgEMj3A7u?e=sb4GYC

[edit, the MiG 28 was closer and didn't even chase me!!!]

I thought I hit a tree or something because there was no warnings and then I remembered tacview was recording so went to tacview and saw the su-27. It just crushed my desire to play the ka-50 again.

I think I'm done with the ka-50.

Back to the F18, hopefully she'll take me back.

Try flying online against human opponents. There the KA-50 is a beast.

Now you know why we Shark pilots want Igla's. Get them before they get you.

I understand the feeling. I got sniped in MP by brave fighter pilots too many times to count. Once the new iteration of KA-50 with a missile warning system gets out, I am sure we all get less frustrated.

Any chance you can share your kneeboard files with a KA 50 newbie?

Now you know why we Shark pilots want Igla's. Get them before they get you.

Wouldn't have helped him, as he didn't even knew he was being attacked.

Try flying online against human opponents. There the KA-50 is a beast.

Do you know any good servers I can try?

Ability to contact AWACS should be in KA-50 in the first place. You can hear AWACS transmit if you can dial the same freq but unfortunately no AWACS contact from f6 radio. I've no idea why its not there. Already made a wishlist thread about that. If we can contact AWACS for bogey dope it surely help to have better SA.

Right now to avoid being detected by fast mover radar you should fly very slow below 70 knots or roughly < 130 kmh.

Problem in the DCS is that aircrafts shouldn't be flying randomly like hunters seeking prey. Everyone has their missions, flight plans and tasking. And you are not going to just jump on everything you see on radar as "all seeing eye" if you can't be 110% sure there ain't friendlies and it is not your tasking.

You had a lot of terrain just a few miles off your right... it might have helped for masking from enemy fighters.

Units name was "RedCAPWest#029-01"

CAP stands for "Combat Air Patrol." His mission was to locate and engage enemy aircraft within his assigned airspace. You were an enemy aircraft he found and engaged. He did his job.

At the start of your video you flew under friendly CAP/cover. You were not engaged despite other enemy aircraft actually getting closer to your position. They were likely distracted by your friendly fighter cover.

Even with the simplistic AI you can see how important mission planing and teamwork is.

It just crushed my desire to play the ka-50 again.

Ability to contact AWACS should be in KA-50 in the first place.

AWACS should contact you when they detect bogey in the area that is in your flightplan. Then when they confirm bogey is a hostile, they will call CAP and units in area about it.

Now you know why we Shark pilots want Igla's. Get them before they get you.

I think doing BS-3 Ka-50 is useless. We need Ka-52 which was equipped with Radar.

I think doing BS-3 Ka-50 is useless. We need Ka-52 which was equipped with Radar.

Making you even better to spot by using the RWR that's equipped on most aircrafts.

Seriously, the idea that, on an MP server, a KA50 can go out alone and do his merry little dance of death with Vihkrs, rockets and guns simply isn't realistic.

Choose your MP server wisely, if there's no CAP flying, no Human GCI and RED AI CAP to be expected, don't even bother with joining as you'll just be missile meat.

Join an online group to fly with, my wing, the 132nd, uses the KA50 to its best potential with wolfpacks of up to 4 KA50s doing CAS, Air Interdiction, Battlefield Interdiction, strikes, escort, you name it. All within the wing that provides them with JTACS, Human AWACS support, CAP, Escort, transport, human GFC and so on.

The KA50 is ill equipped to face the dangers of a modern day battlefield on its own, don't go at it alone, bring friends and enjoy the module for it has a lot to give.

Do you know any good servers I can try?

I really recommend Cold War 1947 - 1991 server.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3515114&postcount=1

The KA-50 is one of the most potent weapon systems there, at least compared to the choppers Blue team has available.

Still, this advice is very relevant and applies to the server mentioned above as well:

 

Seriously, the idea that, on an MP server, a KA50 can go out alone and do his merry little dance of death with Vihkrs, rockets and guns simply isn't realistic.

 

Choose your MP server wisely, if there's no CAP flying, no Human GCI and RED AI CAP to be expected, don't even bother with joining as you'll just be missile meat.

 

Join an online group to fly with, my wing, the 132nd, uses the KA50 to its best potential with wolfpacks of up to 4 KA50s doing CAS, Air Interdiction, Battlefield Interdiction, strikes, escort, you name it. All within the wing that provides them with JTACS, Human AWACS support, CAP, Escort, transport, human GFC and so on.

 

The KA50 is ill equipped to face the dangers of a modern day battlefield on its own, don't go at it alone, bring friends and enjoy the module for it has a lot to give.

Making you even better to spot by using the RWR that's equipped on most aircrafts.

 

Seriously, the idea that, on an MP server, a KA50 can go out alone and do his merry little dance of death with Vihkrs, rockets and guns simply isn't realistic.

 

Choose your MP server wisely, if there's no CAP flying, no Human GCI and RED AI CAP to be expected, don't even bother with joining as you'll just be missile meat.

 

Join an online group to fly with, my wing, the 132nd, uses the KA50 to its best potential with wolfpacks of up to 4 KA50s doing CAS, Air Interdiction, Battlefield Interdiction, strikes, escort, you name it. All within the wing that provides them with JTACS, Human AWACS support, CAP, Escort, transport, human GFC and so on.

 

The KA50 is ill equipped to face the dangers of a modern day battlefield on its own, don't go at it alone, bring friends and enjoy the module for it has a lot to give.

Excellent advise there, thank you.

I really recommend Cold War 1947 - 1991 server.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3515114&postcount=1

 

The KA-50 is one of the most potent weapon systems there, at least compared to the choppers Blue team has available.

 

Still, this advice is very relevant and applies to the server mentioned above as well:

Thanks, I will check it out. Do you know if they have Discord?

Thanks, I will check it out. Do you know if they have Discord?

No Discord for the CW server. There is a TS server; I visited it yesterday for the first time, but nobody was online there. SRS plays a vital role on that server though, I can highly recommend it. It adds so much to the atmosphere of flying a military aircraft in a tactical environment.

Making you even better to spot by using the RWR that's equipped on most aircrafts.

 

Seriously, the idea that, on an MP server, a KA50 can go out alone and do his merry little dance of death with Vihkrs, rockets and guns simply isn't realistic.

 

Choose your MP server wisely, if there's no CAP flying, no Human GCI and RED AI CAP to be expected, don't even bother with joining as you'll just be missile meat.

 

Join an online group to fly with, my wing, the 132nd, uses the KA50 to its best potential with wolfpacks of up to 4 KA50s doing CAS, Air Interdiction, Battlefield Interdiction, strikes, escort, you name it. All within the wing that provides them with JTACS, Human AWACS support, CAP, Escort, transport, human GFC and so on.

 

The KA50 is ill equipped to face the dangers of a modern day battlefield on its own, don't go at it alone, bring friends and enjoy the module for it has a lot to give.

me again, speaking of GCI/AWACS, do you know If can setup bullseye or something similar into ABRIS?

No Discord for the CW server. There is a TS server; I visited it yesterday for the first time, but nobody was online there. SRS plays a vital role on that server though, I can highly recommend it. It adds so much to the atmosphere of flying a military aircraft in a tactical environment.

Oh yea, SRS is a must. I have SRS setup and ready to go for both F/18 and Ka-50.

Discord is nice to check them out first before you commit.

 

Discord is nice to check them out first before you commit.

There's no commitment. Cold War 1947 - 1991 is a public server. You join the server, you fly, that's it. It's not a virtual squadron. In fact there are mostly loners on that server, but every now and then some squads also visit and fly for a night there.

There's no commitment. Cold War 1947 - 1991 is a public server. You join the server, you fly, that's it. It's not a virtual squadron. In fact there are mostly loners on that server, but every now and then some squads also visit and fly for a night there.

:thumbup:, I will check them out :joystick:

Slightly OT, but... I've never joined an MP server or indeed flown MP. It sounds like a great idea, though.

Could, someone please tell mw what SRS is, though?

Thanks.

Slightly OT, but... I've never joined an MP server or indeed flown MP. It sounds like a great idea, though.

Come and try the server, it's great.

I must be insane to invite all you KA-50 drivers over... that thing scares me crazy in my Huey.

Could, someone please tell mw what SRS is, though?

 

Check this.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2826669&postcount=1

SRS is awesome. It's basically what ED tries to implement with "voice chat" in a long development period.

Shark is nobody´s B, it´s the Devil himself. The point is, from the design of any helicopter, plane or land unit for that matter, typically, the higher you go, the more power you have. And so, any helicopter, although it thrives in a contested area, it requires that you fly tactically, and hide, pop-up, and hide. Also, in such scenarios, you would have friendly airforce coverage, or at the very least, be within something like S-300/SA2/SA3 or there around. That is, you are under the umbrella of air-air defences, while being able to take out what no one else can on such battlefield (make no mistake, that would be no area for even such formidable CAS aircraft as Su25/A10 to be in). So if you want a realistic scenario, you need to be realistic about how you make it, also, know that SU27 doesn´t need to find you with it´s radar, we got something called datalink. If awacs, or any other enemy aircraft spots you, they all know about you. Ka50 is unbeatable, if you know how to fly her, and make correct tactical decisions. It´s good that you know how to fly and employ her in a basic way, now you need to add the element of tactics and decision-making based on your intel. If you know there are enemy aircraft in the area, then wait for them to be taken out first. Otherwise, if you go into such an area, it´s fully possible, but then you need to keep looking outside all the time. And since you got no RWR, it means you pretty much could be fired at outside the visual range, and still not know about the missile. The keywords here, mountains/obstacles/mud-diving ;)

Thanks, Ike.

I'll be gentle ;)