MajkStone Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Awesome Move! Steam rocks. I would also love to be able to transfer my existing BS cd key to steam (similar to how X3: Terran Conflict recently set up for us). Also A10/Apache and FC2 on steam would be great! -MajkStone [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team f-18hornet Posted July 10, 2010 ED Team Share Posted July 10, 2010 Awesome Move! Steam rocks. I would also love to be able to transfer my existing BS cd key to steam (similar to how X3: Terran Conflict recently set up for us). Also A10/Apache and FC2 on steam would be great! I didn't know that it's even possible to transfer CD key to steam.:joystick: And steam doesn't rocks when they say USD = Euro.:music_whistling: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I hope there is a nice sales boost with Steam and Ka-50. Thanks ED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Oh my God!! Not on steam.......... plsss... :( Why? :huh: I think it's a great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvnu Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I posted a question about Straforce when this game came out, it was a huge issue and a lot of people got cranky but i got my answer and left. Now i am back, i will happily install this on my PC and it will be a pleasure to pay you for your hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 10, 2010 Author ED Team Share Posted July 10, 2010 To answer the three most popular questions: 1- Sorry, but we are unable to release Black Shark over Steam in the UK. 2- Due to Ubisoft owning the Lock On intellectual property rights, it's unlikely we'll be able to release LOP as a unified product (LOP is currently two discs, one for LO and one for FC2) over Steam. But, it's something we're investigating. 3- While things could change, I would expect the A-10C release availability to be similar to that of Black Shark. After a certain time period after post-release, we would investigate placing A-10C on Steam as well. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceflier Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 To answer the three most popular questions: 1- Sorry, but we are unable to release Black Shark over Steam in the UK. 2- Due to Ubisoft owning the Lock On intellectual property rights, it's unlikely we'll be able to release LOP as a unified product (LOP is currently two discs, one for LO and one for FC2) over Steam. But, it's something we're investigating. 3- While things could change, I would expect the A-10C release availability to be similar to that of Black Shark. After a certain time period after post-release, we would investigate placing A-10C on Steam as well. Thanks for that wags. If thats the case id suggest in letting user be able to use the cd key to register it in steam. It is a great community tool to join your friends and is a major issue with FC2 and BS at the moment. IMHO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakobi Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 What are the reason not to have DCS: A-10 on steam from the start? Don't use steam, so might be something i simply don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) And steam doesn't rocks when they say USD = Euro.:music_whistling: Sorry, but that complaint group is silly. As far as Steam purchases go one USD is indeed one Euro. I'll quote the steam window I have open right now: "All prices include VAT where applicable" So: $10 = €8 8+(8x0.15)=~9.2 The specifics vary greatly with the exchange rates (sometimes closer, sometimes further away), so instead of making prices vary wildly the convention is to do a straight conversion. Also, of course, are you so sure it's steam and not publishers that is setting the prices? ;) If thats the case id suggest in letting user be able to use the cd key to register it in steam. You can already (and have been able to for years) place any game you have on your Steam library no matter if you own a "steam copy" of it or not. The only real disadvantage you'll have to owning a "steam copy" is that you will not be able to download it. So if you want your Black Shark or FC2 on your Steam, just add it. :) Edited July 10, 2010 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Just curious, but why is the UK excluded? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Fish Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) has ED restricted its sale in the UK ? Edited July 10, 2010 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 has ED restricted its sale in the UK ? I very much doubt it, probly some leagel thing dating back the the 70's........ the 1570's that is.....:) The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 3- While things could change, I would expect the A-10C release availability to be similar to that of Black Shark. After a certain time period after post-release, we would investigate placing A-10C on Steam as well. Why not immediately? It took nearly 3 months to put FC2 up on direct2drive and that was touted as "soon after release it will be up on d2d." I almost waited until I realized that you were working in Valve Time and it was going to take quite awhile to be purchased from there. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 You can already (and have been able to for years) place any game you have on your Steam library no matter if you own a "steam copy" of it or not. The only real disadvantage you'll have to owning a "steam copy" is that you will not be able to download it. So if you want your Black Shark or FC2 on your Steam, just add it. :) Well that doens't lead to any advantage a real steam activation would bring. I think many people would love not need to think of starforce activations anymore and on top of this no more disc jocking. You can just play where you are, on every capable pc as long you have internet access or at least activated the game once and logged in. So I can show my friends how great your software is. Happy new customers, anyone? ;) It would be really great if you would let us transform our boxed copies to steam activations. As someone said, it is possible and i think many (including me) would be very happy. Well I wouldn't have any problems if I, as a tradeoff, couldn't install the cd version anymore as the starforce key would become useless (so I don't get 2 copies of the game). And as a consequence noone would bother you asking for more activations anymore. :) So I ask sincerely for this to happen, please. :) But what I don't understand is the decision to release hard copy of DCS:Warthog first and only later on steam. Is there something I just missed? Greetings, Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Poster Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Awesome Just saw it on steam this morning and am in the process of purchasing. I have not purchased this or any other of your products before due to the inclusion of starforce but if you get the other games on steam as well (without starforce) then its a guaranteed buy frome me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verana_ss Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) It would be really great if you would let us transform our boxed copies to steam activations. As someone said, it is possible and i think many (including me) would be very happy. Well I wouldn't have any problems if I, as a tradeoff, couldn't install the cd version anymore as the starforce key would become useless (so I don't get 2 copies of the game). And as a consequence noone would bother you asking for more activations anymore. :) So I ask sincerely for this to happen, please. :) But what I don't understand is the decision to release hard copy of DCS:Warthog first and only later on steam. Is there something I just missed? Greetings, Morph +1 not to suffer from starforce activation anymore I want my copy to immigrate into the new place. Edited July 11, 2010 by verana_ss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewS Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Just saw it on steam this morning and am in the process of purchasing. I have not purchased this or any other of your products before due to the inclusion of starforce but if you get the other games on steam as well (without starforce) then its a guaranteed buy frome me. +1 I will never purchase any game with Starforce, but now that you have released on Steam (and it's Starforce free) I will purchase! Please release FC2 on Steam as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinelnic Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Excellent!! I hope you make loads of money from this move to get yourselves the nice shiny Ferraris you all deserve. Steam will obviously get a meaty cut from these sales, so it makes sense for ED to only put the product on Steam once the niche market has already bought from more direct sources. Steam then allows for ED to expand the market to a broader previously unreached audience, at the cost of less income per sale. 1 Westinghouse W-600 refrigerator - Corona six-pack - Marlboro reds - Patience by Girlfriend "Engineering is the art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance." (Dr. A. R. Dykes - British Institution of Structural Engineers, 1976) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewS Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Steam will obviously get a meaty cut from these sales, so it makes sense for ED to only put the product on Steam once the niche market has already bought from more direct sources. Steam then allows for ED to expand the market to a broader previously unreached audience, at the cost of less income per sale. ED if you want to sell more product put A10 on Steam right away. Sure Valve take a percentage (15% ??) for the Steam distribution but so what! Steam means exposure to an enormous user base of about 2 million gamers and a lot of "impulse" purchases, especially when Steam sales are on. You've finally seen the light with BS on Steam please don't drop the ball when A10 is released! Steam forever! Go Steam Go!!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immermann Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Steam will obviously get a meaty cut from these sales, so it makes sense for ED to only put the product on Steam once the niche market has already bought from more direct sources. +1. Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewS Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 +1. Beat me to it. Why wouldn't they want to sell it on Steam straight away and get far more sales! Their end profit will be greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team f-18hornet Posted July 11, 2010 ED Team Share Posted July 11, 2010 +1 not to suffer from starforce activation anymore I want my copy to immigrate into the new place. If I could migrate with my DVD version to steam version I'd think about that too.:joystick: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Glowing_Amraam Posted July 11, 2010 ED Team Share Posted July 11, 2010 I dont see the big deal about starforce, its just a standard "online check" anyway, doesnt install anything to your pc. :) But anyway, its nice to see this on Steam. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgJRhtnqA-67pKmQ3A2GsgA ED youtube channel https://www.facebook.com/glowingamraam My facebook page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooternutz Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I like it. This will mean I can get my A-10C a lot faster, hopefully. I like the exposure theory as well. No problem with StarForce. [sIGPIC]https://drive.google.com/file/d/16rUBmmJR7A3YGZVGPGskxG1XtvulGojJ/view?usp=sharing[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distiler Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Wich share does Steam gets? (if it can be known...) Anyway good luck with this! AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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