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Old 10-18-2017, 10:17 AM   #31
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In german planes you should 'fly' ATA not RPM.
But only in Bf109 and FW190 with BMW engines.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:28 PM   #32
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But only in Bf109 and FW190 with BMW engines.
Why only Bf109 and Fw190 with BMW? Can you explain that?
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In DCS there are no planes with a BMW engine.
The Bf 109 has a DB605 and the Dora a Jumo 213. The only plane with a BMW engine I know of would be the Fw190A or F.
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In DCS there are no planes with a BMW engine.
The Bf 109 has a DB605 and the Dora a Jumo 213. The only plane with a BMW engine I know of would be the Fw190A or F.


Exactly, that was my point. Iirc even German Bombers and Stukas set their throttle according to ATA and not RPM.
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The Jumo 213 was flown by RPM, it's stated in the engine and pilot manual of the Dora.

In Performance charts of FW190D and Ta152, you can only see rpm settings, no ata values.

The ata indicator was used for monitoring perposes.

That was my point. All other engines, DB and BMW were mainly flown by ATA.
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The Jumo 213 was flown by RPM, it's stated in the engine and pilot manual of the Dora.

In Performance charts of FW190D and Ta152, you can only see rpm settings, no ata values.

The ata indicator was used for monitoring perposes.

That was my point. All other engines, DB and BMW were mainly flown by ATA.
You are right! Every day something new. I guess the reason for this was the "Einhebelbediengerät" developed by Junkers which automatically managed manifold pressure, charger switching and alike.

The Ta-152 C-1 was equipped with the DB 603 engine, which had a similar engine management system, so I guess that explains why it also has RPM settings.
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The Jumo 213 was flown by RPM, it's stated in the engine and pilot manual of the Dora.

In Performance charts of FW190D and Ta152, you can only see rpm settings, no ata values.

The ata indicator was used for monitoring perposes.

That was my point. All other engines, DB and BMW were mainly flown by ATA.
https://youtu.be/pvKs9VLUcCg?t=374

This may be, but Erich Brunotte says that the pilots flew only according to pressure ("Ladedruck")
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The Ta-152 C-1 was equipped with the DB 603 engine, which had a similar engine management system, so I guess that explains why it also has RPM settings.
Oooo.kay ..

I just checked an I am really a bit surprised.

Never knew they did not build the Ta152 around an improved Jumo! It's a bit hard to understand why it kept the long-nose Dora design, but probably the center of mass was so much different to the 109, or the plane had just become more of the high altitude fighter they wanted, not a low altitude dogfighter like the 190A.

Speaking of centers of mass, but imo the beauty of the Focke-Wulf design got lost along the way. The original Fw190 must have looked more like a spaceship or something from the future, it's imo simply a breathtakingly clean design. And it may not have been efficient but that huge airscrew covering is extremely beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WivNmE3w-0o


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Interesting interview, we're still waiting for Part II

Jump to min 6.00.
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Interesting interview, we're still waiting for Part II

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......good vid...........thanks for posting +1
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