Gladman Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yeah baby. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fighter-jet-purchase-announcement-1.3862210 i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmack Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Awesome news! Unfortunately it is only a band aid solution for now but agree with the choice. Did not think the liberals would do something responsible. Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think the Russians are happier too. lolz couldnt resist. :D [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think the Russians are happier too. lolz couldnt resist. :D +1 Lord of Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) So because the Trudeau government got wrapped up in opposing something they didn't understand, they're going to shell out the cost for 18 Super Hornets, $400 dollars in temporary upgrades to their Legacy Hornets, a full life extension program for those same Legacy Hornets, and then run an 'independent competition' to find that the F-35 is the better aircraft anyway and purchase those, with the additional potential cost of trying to buy back into the program, and the potential loss of contracts withdrawn from Canadian contractors? Am I getting this right? Edited November 23, 2016 by Tirak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davee Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 So because the Trudeau government got wrapped up in opposing something they didn't understand, they're going to shell out the cost for 18 Super Hornets, $400 dollars in temporary upgrades to their Legacy Hornets, a full life extension program for those same Legacy Hornets, and then run an 'independent competition' to find that the F-35 is the better aircraft anyway and purchase those, with the additional potential cost of trying to buy back into the program, and the potential loss of contracts withdrawn from Canadian contractors? Am I getting this right? Not quite. Canada's role, Domestic, NATO and UN is undergoing evaluation in consideration of shifts in world affairs and alliances. Once that is completed, then they will go shopping for equipment for the four services to meet those requirements. There is a lot more to it than just picking what the public assumes is the "best". The previous Government got into bed with the U.S. military industrial complex. Hardly an open bidding process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I want to know what other competitors do they have in mind.. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Personally I see no reason to look at other competitors. The SH does everything we need to fulfill our allied requirements and I don't care what you buy we cannot defend a country this big with 50-100 of anything in production or on the drawing board. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted November 23, 2016 ED Team Share Posted November 23, 2016 I think the Russians are happier too. lolz couldnt resist. :D Not sure they would be too concerned either way... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 My question now is what squadron will get them. Will they bring back a retired squad such as the 416 or 441? Will they transition them through the 410 or send people states side to be qualified? No matter what, I'm very excited to see something (anything) happen for our air force. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 TBH, I really think the ASH Program will be very worth while.... Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Being Air Forces models, these birds are absent of all Carrier ops related equipment? MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Being Air Forces models, these birds are absent of all Carrier ops related equipment? Nope. They thought about making a 'land' version of the original legacy hornet and scrapped it. A few legacy hornets in other countries do have some minor modifications, like removal of the launch bar, but they found that caused swaying in the nose wheel, so most put it back or replaced it with a dummy bar. 'Decarrierizing' an aircraft generally just isn't worth while. You're not going to replace the landing gear, most combat aircraft have hooks anyway, the heavy structure reinforcement is part and parcel of the airframe and can't be removed anyway, and removing the launch bar nets you next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Nope. They thought about making a 'land' version of the original legacy hornet and scrapped it. A few legacy hornets in other countries do have some minor modifications, like removal of the launch bar, but they found that caused swaying in the nose wheel, so most put it back or replaced it with a dummy bar. 'Decarrierizing' an aircraft generally just isn't worth while. You're not going to replace the landing gear, most combat aircraft have hooks anyway, the heavy structure reinforcement is part and parcel of the airframe and can't be removed anyway, and removing the launch bar nets you next to nothing. interesting. thanks for the insight. -Jav MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Nope. They thought about making a 'land' version of the original legacy hornet and scrapped it. A few legacy hornets in other countries do have some minor modifications, like removal of the launch bar, but they found that caused swaying in the nose wheel, so most put it back or replaced it with a dummy bar. 'Decarrierizing' an aircraft generally just isn't worth while. You're not going to replace the landing gear, most combat aircraft have hooks anyway, the heavy structure reinforcement is part and parcel of the airframe and can't be removed anyway, and removing the launch bar nets you next to nothing. ie: F/A-18L, Lighter Cheaper Version, Literally, no Country Showed Interest. RAAF and Some Other Countries manually removed "Some" of the Carrier Equipment to save weight, but have since put them back, to be able to do carrier ops during joint operations and training exercises if needed. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 ie: F/A-18L, Lighter Cheaper Version, Literally, no Country Showed Interest. It's a little more complex than that. McDonnall Douglas and Northrop worked together when making the F/A-18. A lot of countries were looking into getting the F-18L, which Northrop would primarily be responsible for making, enough in fact that McDonnall Douglas got concerned about not being able to sell any of their own F-18s on the international market, so they sued Northrop. By the time the dust had cleared on the settlement, interest for the F-18L died out because of other aircraft (the F-16 and the full version of the F-18 ) had already filled the potential orders that the F-18L was originally intended for. It's definitely one of the bigger "**** You's" in aviation manufacturer history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The Swiss Hornets had the wing folding mechanism removed and the wings fuzed for a 9 G rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 The Swiss Hornets had the wing folding mechanism removed and the wings fuzed for a 9 G rating. I'm Pretty Sure the Swiss Hornets still have the Wing Fold. Their 9G Comes from Titanium Materials and re-designed pylons. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummingbird Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) I'm Pretty Sure the Swiss Hornets still have the Wing Fold. Their 9G Comes from Titanium Materials and re-designed pylons. Might be right, I just remember being told a long time ago that they fuzed the wing folds. EDIT: This puts a rest to that story: Canada ought to do the same with their CF-18's if they can. Edited November 24, 2016 by Hummingbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Might be right, I just remember being told a long time ago that they fuzed the wing folds. EDIT: This puts a rest to that story: Canada ought to do the same with their CF-18's if they can. I would imagine that'll fall under the $400 million dollar upgrade already promised, and the life extension program not yet estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vRCAF Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Excellent news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Swiss basically opted to use titanium and a modified wing design at the cost of some weight, which isnt important as they dont do carrier ops. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Might be right, I just remember being told a long time ago that they fuzed the wing folds. EDIT: This puts a rest to that story: Canada ought to do the same with their CF-18's if they can. I bet this is pretty useful when operating from their secret underground air bases :D Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gospadin Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Personally I see no reason to look at other competitors. The SH does everything we need to fulfill our allied requirements and I don't care what you buy we cannot defend a country this big with 50-100 of anything in production or on the drawing board. True, but really, you hardly have to defend the whole of your land mass. A half dozen big cities and ports on each coast and call it a day. If someone wanted to invade via Nunavut, good luck to them. My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 True, but really, you hardly have to defend the whole of your land mass. A half dozen big cities and ports on each coast and call it a day. If someone wanted to invade via Nunavut, good luck to them. LMAO, personally, I'd leave the cities and defend dam near anything else. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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