dimitrischal Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Lousy weather in Europe? LoL Bad weather would be the norm in most scenarios other than mid summer. Except for target identification poor weather and icing pose great risk in the most common phases of flight especially landing. I wouldn’t want to operate the mig23 in low ceilings and near zero temps. Not that western fighters would be unaffected but they re easier to fly in imc. DCS of course doesn’t bother with such trivial things as weather and icing. So.... where’s my mig23? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Low flight with the Russian weather in a fighter designed to do so. Some tune to the fly profile but completely possible. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auditor Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I would be VERY interested if this development eventually lead into the Mig-27. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrischal Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 No poor weather in that video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What's that video from? Looks interesting Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What's that video from? Looks interesting “Soviet Air Power” documentary. For some reason I found it with different audio, probably different editor. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmp Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What in particular makes Western fighters less affected by IMC and near zero temperatures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 What in particular makes Western fighters less affected by IMC and near zero temperatures? I think that some people just find western instruments layout easier easier to use, especially in IMC, like the artificial horizon or HUD for instance. But sure, Russian planes are rugged like nothing else for harsh conditions. 1 Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmp Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's a question of what you're familiar with. I find both AI styles about equally easy to use - if anything I lean towards the Russian style, but that's just me - and I prefer the Russian way of displaying the radar picture on the HUD. Looking down at the scope is disorienting to me. I understand the MiG-23 is in general a less capable fighter than contemporary Western designs and certainly less capable than newer Western planes, but I fail to see how it's worse in IMC and especially in icing conditions. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's a question of what you're familiar with. I find both AI styles about equally easy to use - if anything I lean towards the Russian style, but that's just me - and I prefer the Russian way of displaying the radar picture on the HUD. Looking down at the scope is disorienting to me. I understand the MiG-23 is in general a less capable fighter than contemporary Western designs and certainly less capable than newer Western planes, but I fail to see how it's worse in IMC and especially in icing conditions. What am I missing? I didn’t spot anyone questioning the Russian way of dealing with icing, and I certainly wouldn’t. I certainly miss the flight path marker in Russian HUD, and for the record, despite being used to Russian instruments layout, India selected western type HUD with FPM for MiG-29K :music_whistling: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmp Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I didn’t spot anyone questioning the Russian way of dealing with icing I was referring to this post: I wouldn’t want to operate the mig23 in low ceilings and near zero temps. Not that western fighters would be unaffected but they re easier to fly in imc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathAngel1 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 When will be ready? It will be pretty nice module... ..:NAVY PILOTS ARE THE THE BEST PILOTS:.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDieing Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 It will take atleast a year, possibly two or three. At best she is currently in the 3D department, would be my best guess. ''Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.'' Erich Fromm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Spring 2020 or so i’d say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Maybe early. Fall 2019 here. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This module will be instant buy for me i really like the russian planes to bad we will never get a MIG-31 lot of people wanna see this monster interceptor I think alot of people want to see any sort gen4 red air. Guess that a Gen3 mig23 will have to do. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
045 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) It's a question of what you're familiar with. I find both AI styles about equally easy to use - if anything I lean towards the Russian style, but that's just me - and I prefer the Russian way of displaying the radar picture on the HUD. Looking down at the scope is disorienting to me. Yes that's very true and it is remarkable how that familiarity can lead to more efficiency too. I'm very fond of the VVI display on the HUD when in Nav Mode myself that the Russian jets have. I quite like the Su-25A's gauge layout as well. Can't wait to get the Flogger and see what it's like. I've been under the impression the MLA has an IRST. Is that true? And is this it? Edited December 24, 2018 by 045 Might have found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyMPAK Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 МИГ-23MLA is equipped with IRST TP-26 (теплопеленгатор ТП-26) Iniquissimam pacem justissimo bello anteferro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Guys, a avionics question, in A-G mode, the 23MLA is capable of showing CCRP and CCIP modes in the Hud? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
045 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 МИГ-23MLA is equipped with IRST TP-26 (теплопеленгатор ТП-26) Then that does appear to be it on the bottom, thanks. Going to be interesting to use in comparison to the Flanker/Fulcrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DmitriKozlowsky Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I agree. But a marginal aircraft such as Mig-23/27 family, is not needed. RAZBAM and ED could do better, by RAZBAM assuming DCS: level development of MIG-29S, perhaps up-variant of 1990's early 2K's SMT. While ED retains control of FC level MIG-29S and flight model development for all versions. However it appears that Flogger dev is already well into its project schedule, so my view is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.SquirrelBoy12 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 AFAIK, nobody is able to do a MiG-29. The MiG-23 is the most advanced fighter the Russian MoD seems willing to allow at this point afaik. I am sure there are devs that want to do Flankers & Fulcrums, it just isnt permitted right now. Modules: FC3, A-10C, M2000C, MiG-21bis, F-86F, AV-8B NA, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, A-29, Eurofighter Typhoon, A-6E, MiG-23MLA, Nevada, Persian Gulf, South Atlantic, Syria, Afghanistan Specs: Intel i7 2600K, Nvidea GTX 980, 16GB RAM, NVMe SSD, Saitek X-55, TrackIR 5, Samsung Odyssey VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tread_Head57 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 But a marginal aircraft such as Mig-23/27 family, is not needed. Them’s fight’n words round here pal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The Russian MoD explicitly forbade them to make an Su-24, so it's doubtful more modern MiGs and Sukhois are doable. I'm surprised they swung a 23 somehow, I seriously doubt we'll see anything newer than that fully modeled anytime soon. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 AFAIK, nobody is able to do a MiG-29. The MiG-23 is the most advanced fighter the Russian MoD seems willing to allow at this point afaik. I am sure there are devs that want to do Flankers & Fulcrums, it just isnt permitted right now. Some 3rd parties or ED would be able to do it, but they aren't allowed to do so :smilewink: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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