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Old 08-09-2014, 07:39 AM   #31
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What I've done to be successful with takeoffs and landings.

1. Reduced saturation levels for the rudder.
2. Increased resistance in my Saitek rudders petals.
3. Get lined up and pull the stick back to lock the tail wheel.
4. Full throttle with slight right rudder immediately.
5. As soon as it starts to correct to the right start wiggling the rudder with slight left/right quick successions.
6. Drop the nose gently in the 150-180 range and then apply slight right rudder as it will pull left slightly. You may or may not have to keep using the wiggling strategy till it lifts off.

I use no brakes on takeoff and no assists at all.

Landings
Final Approach in the 250-280 range.
Once I hit the runway area try in to be in the 220 range.
Like Jcomm says reduce power and flare like crazy. The plane doesn't seems to stall very easily so don't worry about that.
Fluctuate left/right braking to slow it down or keep it straight.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:57 AM   #32
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I don't know why people would need reduced saturation in this sim.

Did my first landing and then T/O last night. After lots of hours in DCS P-51D I have to say this is a forgiving plane to fly. Not nearly as violent torque on T/O as with the Stang and landing is a breeze.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:05 AM   #33
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I posted a thread about this issue a few days ago. All I can say is that the initial poster is correct. This plane sucks to take off in. The tail wheel does not lock no matter what you do. It pulls to one side or the other and all you can do is use the brakes to even it out. Honestly, I think the DCS needs to fix this issue as it pops up every day with another group of fliers.
Because of this issue.....I don't really care for this module and have shelved it. I spent better than 6-8 hours trying to get it to work the way the instructions say that it should. Even though I can get it up now....it still is just a 50 / 50 proposition. I crash 50% of the time. Just no fun at all.
I went back to the P-51.....................................
Hi. I agree that taking off is really tricky. I didn't master it yet also, but i saw bunch of guys on multiplayer that doing it well.
Tail wheel lock works well for me. It locks in the current position not always stright. The second thing is that you must pull joystick all the way back. Is it posible that you have calibrated joystick in the way that it can not go all the way back. So i recommend you to check calibration.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:06 AM   #34
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I posted a thread about this issue a few days ago. All I can say is that the initial poster is correct. ...
No, he's not correct. The tailwheel locks for the rest of us pretty well.

If you are serious about getting assistance for the issues you are experiencing, then post a track - it only takes a few seconds.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:46 AM   #35
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Yes its a little bit tricky but after taking off and fly her, man she is stable and a beauty. I love the D-9.

A real piece of art from ED!!!
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:25 AM   #36
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Here's a track of a circuit with 8m/s x-wind and turbulence set at higher levels.

I am not flying it by the numbers, my uncrab is lausy on landing, but still piece-of.cake!
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:58 AM   #37
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Some good advice on this thread. I was really struggling and blew up like 40 times or so but kept on trying and coming back reading tips on here and now I can take off most of the time. There's no problem with the tail wheel, just have to keep practicing!
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:10 PM   #38
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Default Take-Off assis: What does it do exactly?

Been trying to get FW-190 into the air but so far i only managed to do this with the take-off assist to 100% (didn't try other values -- yet). Auto rudder is set to OFF.

I've tried over 50 take-offs without take-off assistent because in a sim like this it's cheating. There's no assist in real life so why would there be one here?
But... like mentioned above, so far am not able to take off in the FW-190 without assistence.

After around 20 attempts which all failed i came here to look for some tips but i found none of these very usefull, they didn't get me airborne.

I always end up beside the runway, either drifting or crashing the aircraft.

Here's what i do:
- To help me to get the tailwheel straight i enter the plane sitting on the runway, ready for take-off (wind zero).
- Open up the throttle a little bit so the plane starts rolling, then pull back a bit on the stick to lock the tailwheel.
- Open op more throttle to catch more speed, without rudder input the plane then "always" goes to the left. Doesn't matter if the throttle is opened gradually or slammed open. The result is always the same.
- The moment i feel (seeing is better word then feeling) the aircraft starts pulling to the left, i gently give a bit of right rudder to keep it straight.
- The more speed the aircarft gets, the more there is drift to the left. I compensate this by giving a bit more right rudder.
- And then it happens. Suddenly, it turns it's nose to the right and i release the right rudder to compensate (sometimes even give left rudder) but as soon as i do that, the nose turnes more to the right (??), the left wing goes down and touches the ground and then it's over...

So after crash number 56 or so i decided to turn the Take-Off assistance on once more (auto rudder off) and hopla, nice smooth take-off.

So what does this Take-Off assistance do that i'm doing wrong?


PS: I have not much of a problem in taking the P-51D up.
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Old 08-09-2014, 01:18 PM   #39
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I'm sorry but I think that this is duplicate topic. Please see this thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128270
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Been there to figure out what i might do wrong and tried a few things to no avail but: in that topic there is no word on what the assistence really does. What does it compensate? Where does it help?
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