Shadow KT Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Okay, I gave up on doing the campaign trough the campaign menu as I constantly get DCS crashes on mission 1 or the cargo gets damaged or what ever. I went on mission 4, everything was fine. Flying towards Batumi. I decided to check if the NVGs were actually disabled ( as I thought it is possible to remove them as on the Ka-50 ), I flipped them on, got the instant message to turn them off, AS I DID, but I kept getting warnings.... My pilot went out, next my co-pilot and next thing you know, no one was flying the huey. You might want to do that trigger or whatever is you use there. 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Okay, I gave up on doing the campaign trough the campaign menu as I constantly get DCS crashes on mission 1 or the cargo gets damaged or what ever. I went on mission 4, everything was fine. Flying towards Batumi. I decided to check if the NVGs were actually disabled ( as I thought it is possible to remove them as on the Ka-50 ), I flipped them on, got the instant message to turn them off, AS I DID, but I kept getting warnings.... My pilot went out, next my co-pilot and next thing you know, no one was flying the huey. You might want to do that trigger or whatever is you use there. Its meant to simulate getting blind by NVG and lightning flashes. The mission is perfectly doable but needs a little more planning. If you are unsure you cleared the mountains, you can do a circling climb until your height is +1000-1500 from the highest peak in that region. Next, tune to ADF Batumi and fly coastline until the needle points to roughly 127°. Once there hard left to ADF and initiate descent slowly and at 80 knots or less while keeping tabs on that ADF needle. If timed right, you should descend to runway threshold where PAPI/VASI usually give clues to orientation. Finally word of advice, follow your AC and dont get creative. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Its meant to simulate getting blind by NVG and lightning flashes. The mission is perfectly doable but needs a little more planning. If you are unsure you cleared the mountains, you can do a circling climb until your height is +1000-1500 from the highest peak in that region. Next, tune to ADF Batumi and fly coastline until the needle points to roughly 127°. Once there hard left to ADF and initiate descent slowly and at 80 knots or less while keeping tabs on that ADF needle. If timed right, you should descend to runway threshold where PAPI/VASI usually give clues to orientation. Finally word of advice, follow your AC and dont get creative. I even put it in Bold.... I switched off the NVG, it was just for less than a second on, so I can see if it was really out. I clearly realize it was meant to simulate that, but it bugs out 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbyland Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Dunno if this is still a living thread, I see it hasn't been posted in for a while. Anyway just in case, I'll give my 2 cents. My main gripe with this mission is the chopper is so massively overloaded it doesn't really perform well enough to maneuver in the terrain. In saying that, it's an awesome mission from a navigation perspective. I couldn't pick up the Batumi NDB initially, you just have to rely on your heading once leaving the ship. If you do get lost, try another NDB and once you find the coast, change to Batumi NDB and you should get it once close enough. As for navigating to the refugee camp, once you cross over Batumi airfield, track the tail of the ADF needle to maintain a track of 110 degrees for 9nm. If you're really pedantic you could rely on your clock too (at 60kts it should take you 9 minutes to reach the camp), the critical thing is maintaining a reasonably good track of 110 degrees from Batumi using the tail of the ADF needle. I've not made it further than finding the convoy since the chopper is so overloaded it just falls out the sky once you lose too much speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadg Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 follow the big river south of Batumi. you cant miss it even in the pea soup. the valley you want is the 2nd or third tributary off that river. (cant remember so count on the map) its where the big river turns south to turkey which helps. follow that tributary right to the camp. because the camp is built on that tributary. in these conditions you don't want to lose visual contact with the ground. and this route takes you round all the hills instead of over them. so you cant fly into them. and you don't have to descend through cloud into a blind valley. which, if you have read chickenhawk. you know is helicopter suicide. :) if lost in cloud with no visual reference, you try to break out the top of the cloud. never the bottom. use the rivers like helicopter roads. they follow the best (lowest) routes through terrain.. My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilizedAustin Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Are the landing/search lights weaker in 2.5? It seems that by the time I get close to the refugee camp, it's almost impossible to see the road unless I fly dangerously close to trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simicro Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I haven't flown that mission in DCS 2.5 so I don't know if the landing/search lights are weaker but if I recall correctly, in 2.5 the trees density is higher than before for the same setting (tree visibility). That can explain that you get a harder time spotting the road or refugee camp. - Tony - . My Reviews: Oilfield Campaign - Argo Campaign l My Mission: Huey Ramp Start Voice-Over New! . Microsoft Force Feedback 2 base modded with a CH Fighterstick - VKB Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV Pedals . Intel i5 4670K @4.3 GHz - 32 Gb DDR3 - MSI GTX 1080 - ASUS PG278QR 27" 2K @165 Hz G-Sync Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippis Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Yes. Lighting in general has been broken in numerous different ways ever since deferred shading was implemented — lighting of terrain in particular — going back so far as its first 2.0 OA implementation. With the release of 2.5, deferred shading was made the only option and ED is still working to make the lighting work as well as it did in the olden days. Anything design before 2.0 that uses night (or really any kind of low) visibility as a challenge and which hasn't been updated will remain next to impossible until core changes to the engine and its rendering pipeline have been completed. ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzagk Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Hi, yes lighting seems weaker that's why I changed the time of the mission. Will check how to improve this even more. Greg "ARGO" DCS UH-1H DLC SP Campaign 373vFS DCS World squadron (Greece) - www.buddyspike.net "ARGO 2.0 Project Phoenix" UH-1H DLC Campaign - WIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nansaram Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) I can't see anything when met the truck. Even I turned on the landing light and search light, Nothing visual. It's quite frustrate mission. It is getting darker and darker and finally nothing visual when met a convoy. I increased gamma value but no effect. Nothing can See ! What a xxx mission! Edited August 17, 2018 by Nansaram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippis Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Nah, the mission is fine, as such. The current state of world lighting is the problem here — that's on the engine, and not on the mission itself, and as the engine is improved back to its previous capabilities, this will sort itself out. ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Just flew this mission. Searchlight just doesn't work in the latest Beta bearly any light is cast on the ground and none at all over water. unless you fly practically along at ground level which is now not possible with all the (now collidable) trees you just cannot see anything. Such a shame as I was enjoying the campaign up to this mission. Guess I'll give up until this issue is fixed by ED. SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowTiger Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I haven't flown this Campaign since I first posted. I never could manage this mission (a bit unrealistic IMO). So I have no idea what if anything has improved or broken since then. SnowTiger:joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I had a think and as I was enjoying the campaign so much I decided not to give up flying it Instead I edited my logbook to skip mission 4 so I now have to fly mission 5 slinging the huey parts back to Batumi. I REALLY hope ED can sort the lighting issues out though. SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowTiger Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Edited you Logbook ?!! I didn't know you could do that. Let alone edit it to skip a mission. I'll have to take a look at that. Thanks for the idea. SnowTiger:joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) This is from a post by fearlessfrog and tells you how to edit your logbook. There is a file called 'logbook.lua' and you can use Notepad++ to edit it and set the current mission in the campaign. It is located here: X:\Users\(YourWindowsUsername)\Saved Games\DCS\MissionEditor The section looks like this: ["campaign"] = "./mods/aircraft/Uh-1H/Missions/en/Campaigns/en_UN-Pilot.cmp", ["status"] = "Active", ["history"] = { [1] = { ["stage"] = 3, ["mission"] = "en_UN-Pilot_03.miz", }, -- end of [1] }, -- end of ["history"] ..so you'd edit the 'stage' and 'mission' values to whatever you like. Just follow this and you should be good to go. You can also take a look at this post by Yurgan telling you how to do it. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2830501&postcount=181 SD Edited October 1, 2018 by the_soupdragon [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristod76 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) I was able to finish Mission 4 in DCS 2.5.3. (meaning you literally don't have a searchlight), but I have to use some tricks. SPOILER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: The goal is to be in destination place ASAP when you have still some daylight. How to achieve this: Prepare to do many things at the same time, which is: 1. Press Fly (time strarts ticking) 2. IMMEDIATELY start the helicopter. During holding start button you set Radio to INT and call for rearm (I use VAICOM PRO) and leave only front machine guns. Ground crew will tell you several time "What are you doing?" because Huey moves on the deck due to rough sea. It is not the problem. It will get rid of heavy gunners. ALso during startup you change the ADF to Batumi. 3. From this moment you take off ASAP, don't wait for any announcements from copilot. 4. Current OpenBeta is not so restrictive for EGT, so you set your collective at 600 deg. sharp and Fly 120 or alomost 120 knots. I fly 30-50 feet over the rough sea. 5. After setting collective to max allowed value and during flight, turn on the light switch, radar altimeter, lightning, etc. I use Thrustmaster TARGET to map 1 button for all 6 lightning knobs. 6. During flight you will have to keep little bit left rudder, because you are deviated right. 7. From Batumi you follow the road, don't need to fly over refugee camp, you follow the canyon all the time. 8. After some time you meet 3 vehicles which you destroy still during last sunlight. 9. Try to land near the trees just some distance after you killed convoy. I have landed not in proper space, but I didn't have to struggle with wind. 10. Then you have to wait for second Huey, because he was not so fast, maybe 2-5 minutes. I don't remember exactly. When huey arrives it is almost dark. 11. Second huey deploys troops and there is radio transmission about it. 12. You get close to the second huey in ground effect (easier). This time searchlight is a little bit useful. When you land near the huey you are done. I am looking forward to make this mission again when lightning will be corrected by ED. Edited November 27, 2018 by kristod76 Helis: UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2+NS430 | Ka-50 III | SA342 | Mi-24P | AH-64D, Planes: F/A-18C | F-14 | Supercarrier | MiG-21bis | AJS37 | F-5E | AV-8B | M2000C | F-16C | L-39C+NS430 | C-101 | F-86F | MiG-15 | MiG-19 | FC3 | A-10C II, WWII: P-51D | Bf-109 | Fw-190 D9 | Mosquito FB VI | P-47D | WWII pack, GA: Yak-52 | Christen Eagle II, Maps: Nevada | Normandy 2.0 | Persian Gulf | Syria | The Channel PC: 7800x3D, RTX 4090, 64 GB RAM, VR: HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseSeal Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Went back to the Argo campaign for the first time in a few months today, just in the tiniest hope that this mission might be playable... and that screenshot shows what I was greeted with by the time I had only flown over the refugee camp. I mean, that is somehow worse than pitch black. That is a black hole. Incredibly, the lighting is even worse than I remember it being! At least the last time I was able to find and follow the road for a while.... I tried to descend in the hope the searchlight might illuminate, you know, something. The first sign of the searchlight was as I hit the ground. This is not a pop at the campaign creator (although I do think he should edit this mission until lighting is sorted out) this is a pop at ED, who frankly, should stop their work on new modules and sort out the basic freaking game-breaking problems such as lighting which have plagued 2.5 for almost a year now. I love all the updates and work going into the Hornet, but I think we deserve a reason as to why this hasn't been improved in all that time. Is nobody working on it?? Has it been forgotten?? - i7-7700k - 32GB DDR4 2400Mhz - GTX 1080 8GB - Installed on SSD - TM Warthog DCS Modules - A-10C; M-2000C; AV8B; F/A-18C; Ka-50; FC-3; UH-1H; F-5E; Mi-8; F-14; Persian Gulf; NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I quite agree. the lighting in this sim needs some serious TLC SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristod76 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 It seems that searchlight is bad only in some modules like our UH-1H or Mi-8. I recently was flying TF-51D and its landing light was really OK, so it could be great for this mission to have it corrected. Helis: UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2+NS430 | Ka-50 III | SA342 | Mi-24P | AH-64D, Planes: F/A-18C | F-14 | Supercarrier | MiG-21bis | AJS37 | F-5E | AV-8B | M2000C | F-16C | L-39C+NS430 | C-101 | F-86F | MiG-15 | MiG-19 | FC3 | A-10C II, WWII: P-51D | Bf-109 | Fw-190 D9 | Mosquito FB VI | P-47D | WWII pack, GA: Yak-52 | Christen Eagle II, Maps: Nevada | Normandy 2.0 | Persian Gulf | Syria | The Channel PC: 7800x3D, RTX 4090, 64 GB RAM, VR: HP Reverb G2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerador Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I can say that this mission is still unplayable. When you reach the first target, the night is pitch black and you just can't fly at low level due to the amount of obstacles, trees and power lines. Search light has no reach and you can't see anything. Skipped and I keep playing the campaign. so far I'm enjoying it! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastercosta Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 the problem in 2.5 is the lack of "power/distance" of the searchlight and landing light... navigation by ADF is cool and the "right way" to do it, but now navigation in pitch black (even in 3.4 gamma) is really "impossible" i only see my searchlight if i 30m altitude.... i am stuck in this mission. OZOMASTER A10C||F-14C||F-16C||F/A-18C||AV-8B||ASJ37||M-2000C||MIG15||MIG19||MIG21||F5-E||F86||FC3||P51D||Fw190||Fw190 A8||Bf109 D9||Spitfire||UH-1H||Mi8||GAZELLE||BShark2||CA||YAK52||CEagle2||L39||C101||i16||Supercarrier|| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINDOWS10 HOME ||asus GTX 1080|| 3440x1440 34' ||sixcore i7-3930k 3.2GHz || asus sabertooth x79 || 32GbRAM 2133Mhz || TM warthog || saitek cessna pedals || trackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerador Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 the problem in 2.5 is the lack of "power/distance" of the searchlight and landing light... navigation by ADF is cool and the "right way" to do it, but now navigation in pitch black (even in 3.4 gamma) is really "impossible" i only see my searchlight if i 30m altitude.... i am stuck in this mission. You can edit your logbook to skip the mission. In fact iirc the mission itself gives you the option via the F10 radio menu to skip the mission. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastercosta Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 ok, thanks, it is the easy way to overcome this problem... but i really think, at this moment the searchlight is too weak, to pass this mission normally. OZOMASTER A10C||F-14C||F-16C||F/A-18C||AV-8B||ASJ37||M-2000C||MIG15||MIG19||MIG21||F5-E||F86||FC3||P51D||Fw190||Fw190 A8||Bf109 D9||Spitfire||UH-1H||Mi8||GAZELLE||BShark2||CA||YAK52||CEagle2||L39||C101||i16||Supercarrier|| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINDOWS10 HOME ||asus GTX 1080|| 3440x1440 34' ||sixcore i7-3930k 3.2GHz || asus sabertooth x79 || 32GbRAM 2133Mhz || TM warthog || saitek cessna pedals || trackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eviscerador Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 At the moment there is little the creator can do if he wants to keep the mission as it is. Sure he could just remove the NVG restriction, or maybe remove the overcast and give us some moon lighting, but still... The lighting is being reworked iirc all across modules (as you know most modules have cockpit lighting problems, and the huey is one of them) so let's hope in the next iteration this mission is playable. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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