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Old 09-13-2019, 05:33 PM   #51
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Nope, it has an INS, that is aided by GPS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS/INS
It's called a EGI (Embedded GPS INS) and if the GPS fails (satelites get jammed or shot down, which is very likely in a high scale war against a peer opponent) it will just function as a normal INS. That's why you need to do an alignment on the ground during startup, which is needed for the INS part.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:01 PM   #52
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I was under the impression that the Hornets data link relied on GPS (for positioning of everything)? In either case, Data link / SA doesnt work on the Hornet, if you set a mission to for example 1985. At least it didnt the couple of times I tested it a short while ago.

So just saying, the Hornet could still be used as an early Lot, if the mission designer dials back time. If this is a feature or a loophole that ED will close later, who knows.
I havent tried "going back in time" in mission date, so that's interesting. In the 80s the Hornets did have data links just the older link4a system. Link4a is still able to be used ( backward compatability) in a 2000s hornet. It's simply a feature that has yet to be developed.


That being said the fa18c didnt exist in 1985 anyways
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:14 AM   #53
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If DCS: Supercarrier is a success, maybe they'll think about DCS: Supercarrier II, with an earlier carrier model such as the Kitty Hawk/Enterprise and a F-4J/S package.
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:56 AM   #54
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That being said the fa18c didnt exist in 1985 anyways
Oh Im sorry, then set it to 1987-93 or 94 or something, if an example date is that big a problem for you.

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Atm, setting the mission time before, eh mid 90's something, seems to render the Hornets GPS useless for example. It'll know its heading, but thats about it. I havent fully dived into it, just noticed when wanting to test a mission I had put to 1985 (and another to 1991).
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Old 09-14-2019, 11:04 AM   #55
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That being said the fa18c didnt exist in 1985 anyways
Yes it did, 1983 firsts units IIRC.


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Old 09-14-2019, 04:43 PM   #56
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Yes it did, 1983 firsts units IIRC.


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Old 09-16-2019, 06:32 PM   #57
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Roger, I see, C model. I was recalling first one.


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Old 09-17-2019, 12:03 PM   #58
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To me the slatted F-4E is the one that makes the most sense, also when we think about what version of the MiG-21 it is that we have (Bis). So I'm very happy Belsimtek/ED chose that one.

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"The first production F-4E to be fitted with slats was 71-0237, but the first to actually fly with slats was 71-0238 which made its maiden flight on February 11, 1972. The addition of these slats greatly enhanced the maneuvering performance, and the USAF decided to retrofit earlier F-4Es with these slats. The USAF ordered the first slat modification kits in April of 1972, and the first retrofitted F-4E (serial number 69-7524) flew on September 28, 1972. 304 earlier production block F-4Es were retrofitted with these slats, which included just about every surviving F-4E except for those serving with the Thunderbirds."

Also remember the besides being operated by the USAF, Luftwaffe, RAAF, EAF & HAF (that's 5 AF's), the slatted F-4E also closely resembles the F-4F operated by Germany.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:13 PM   #59
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The variant chosen back when the module was announced is the perfect one as far as I'm concerned, and frankly, it's also the best fitting one to DCS as it is. If they eventually say "we're developing the F-4, but not the late E, it'll be a naval variant" that'd frankly be the last great disappointment with DCS as far as I'm concerned .
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