[Robert31178]

Dalan, did you mean you've logged real carrier landings, or in the game here?

[Xenovia]

Originally Posted by Robert31178

Dalan, did you mean you've logged real carrier landings, or in the game here?

That's what i was wondering

[Victory205]

Brings back fond memories, but I don't remember the HUD being that jittery to update. It wasn't perfectly smooth, but it also didn't bother you at all because you were looking through transparent symbology.

The video made it look quite annoying.

Also don't recall being able to see that much of the horizontal stabilizer in flight. The virtual pilot has to have the stick in his sternum, and alpha off of the charts...

Edit: Could be that the perspective is from the RIO's seat?

There is one little detail about the VDI that if modeled, will proffer an unprecedented amount of detail. The darker green "ground" side of the display had horizontal trapezoid shapes that moved from the horizon towards the bottom of the display (when the aircraft was upright, of course). They were wider at the bottom than at the top, meant to show perspective. The A6 had the same trapezoids, but their display was oblong, like an old color TV set.

We called them, "cow patties".

[probad+]

the manual makes it sound like those ground markers changed shape according to the aircraft's orientation to the ground to simulate the change in perspective, any information on that?

[Victory205]

Well, sort of. The trapezoids started at the horizon line and moved towards the outer edge of the case. If you were straight and level, then the cow patties would move from horizon line to bottom of the VDI. They did change shape, but only along the vanishing point lines.

In other words, the cow patties started small, and got larger as they moved towards the pilot. Smaller at the top, larger at the bottom, the whole enchilada growing as it moved from the horizon line to the outer edge of the screen.

They looked like this, and were staggered left and right in multiple columns, oriented along a vanishing point at the middle point of the horizon.

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They did not change perspective according to pitch or roll or anything else. The behavior was consistent and exactly the same no matter what the aircraft attitude. The VDI was not a good instrument for extremely nose high or nose low recoveries. The old AJB3 "eight ball" with heading and pitch marks on the display was a better device (F4/A4). In fact, Naval Aviators used to do full aerobatics under the instrument hood using that device.

The F14 display deficiencies probably resulted in the loss of a few airplanes where the pilot go disoriented during extreme nose high maneuvers.

See Nashville and Oceana for example.

[Cobra847]

Originally Posted by Victory205

Brings back fond memories, but I don't remember the HUD being that jittery to update. It wasn't perfectly smooth, but it also didn't bother you at all because you were looking through transparent symbology.

The video made it look quite annoying.

Also don't recall being able to see that much of the horizontal stabilizer in flight. The virtual pilot has to have the stick in his sternum, and alpha off of the charts...

Edit: Could be that the perspective is from the RIO's seat?

There is one little detail about the VDI that if modeled, will proffer an unprecedented amount of detail. The darker green "ground" side of the display had horizontal trapezoid shapes that moved from the horizon towards the bottom of the display (when the aircraft was upright, of course). They were wider at the bottom than at the top, meant to show perspective. The A6 had the same trapezoids, but their display was oblong, like an old color TV set.

We called them, "cow patties".

The HUD will certainly look much more correct once it is complete. Thank you for the input!

The "cow patties" are already in and working; but still need quite a bit of work to perfect them.

Since you seem to speak from experience; we'd love to talk more with you! If you're interested in helping us out with some more pilot oriented knowledge, we'd love to hear from you: nicholas.dackard@gmail.com or you can PM me here as well.

Thanks!
Nick

[captain_dalan]

Originally Posted by Robert31178

Dalan, did you mean you've logged real carrier landings, or in the game here?

Originally Posted by Xenovia

That's what i was wondering

LOL, i wish. Nah, i was talking about that other sim. I had it mothballed for some 6-7 months as i hadn't really got the time to fly much these days. But i did plug it in last weekend (2 bags, 2 54's, 3 7's and 2 9's, 4000lbs of fuel) and the muscle memory is still there. Took me 4 bolters but i got her down centerlined, 500 ft per minute decent, 6.8 degrees alpha, 128 knots, 4th wire. I know, kinda shallow and iffy but it was 6 months after all.

[Victory205]

Originally Posted by Cobra847

The HUD will certainly look much more correct once it is complete. Thank you for the input!

The "cow patties" are already in and working; but still need quite a bit of work to perfect them.

Since you seem to speak from experience; we'd love to talk more with you! If you're interested in helping us out with some more pilot oriented knowledge, we'd love to hear from you: nicholas.dackard@gmail.com or you can PM me here as well.

Thanks!
Nick

Will get in touch in a week or so. Extremely busy at the moment.

Flew the F14A for eight years, three cruises, 425 carrier landings on five boats (as we aviators called aircraft carriers to piss off the black shoe Navy).

Trying to find time to get into DCS a bit.

[Cibit]

Originally Posted by Victory205

Will get in touch in a week or so. Extremely busy at the moment.

Flew the F14A for eight years, three cruises, 425 carrier landings on five boats (as we aviators called aircraft carriers to piss off the black shoe Navy).

Trying to find time to get into DCS a bit.

Sweet this is what I love about this community

Can't wait for this to be released best of luck with it guys

[Home Fries]

Originally Posted by Victory205

Flew the F14A for eight years, three cruises, 425 carrier landings on five boats (as we aviators called aircraft carriers to piss off the black shoe Navy).

Awesome. I was a VP guy, but then got a chance to play with CVW-17 and CVW-8 (BG staff and CAG staff) and had a lot more fun! With the name Victory, did you fly with 84/103?

First time I told my dad I was going "out to the boat" he asked (in a smart-aleckey way) if we were trapping on subs now. I told him we referred to the CV as "the boat" to piss off the 'shoes and he cracked up. He was old school brown shoe navy (CVA-47).