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Old 12-10-2019, 08:30 PM   #31
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There is no recoil pushing the nose down IRL. Video of Ka-50 shooting 80mm rockets:



At around 3:50 mark you can see that Ka-50 shoots multiple rockets in flight.
Solid as a rock.
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Old 12-10-2019, 09:56 PM   #32
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There is no recoil pushing the nose down IRL. Video of Ka-50 shooting 80mm rockets:



At around 3:50 mark you can see that Ka-50 shoots multiple rockets in flight.
Solid as a rock.
Are you serious? I think there could be people out there saying that the recoil counter Autotrim works perfectly on this one...

The KA 50 has this system and the fact that it has this system is enough proof to me that there is actually recoil.

But..... Is the recoil of the Rockets simulated in DCS. So that the Helicopter over compensates because it's missing?

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Old 12-10-2019, 10:26 PM   #33
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Ok, I don't really know of that system. Only the ballistics adjustment knob behind the seat.

But here is another example. Different helicopter yes, but less advanced. Weight is in the ballpark with Ka-50. Solid as a rock with both 23mm and 80mm rockets.



The reason Im a bit sceptical to the current behaviour is that we have had this discussion before on the P-51 and F-86 modules. There used to be a lot of recoil shooting rockets. But after long discussion on forums about physics, old videos and even the question asked to Chuck Yeager (!) himself, it was later changed to what we have now.

I might be wrong about this, but I have not yet seen 1 IRL video where fighter or helicopter suffer recoil when shooting from rocketpods.
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Old 12-11-2019, 01:40 AM   #34
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but I have not yet seen 1 IRL video where fighter or helicopter suffer recoil when shooting from rocketpods
I posted a couple of RL videos of just that on the previous page.
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Old 12-11-2019, 12:02 PM   #35
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Just thinking out-loud here.
Rockets are fired from pods (No Back on pods / pressure on craft) and drive themselves away, so very little recoil if any. Where a large gun would generate more pressure on the aircraft.

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Old 12-11-2019, 02:05 PM   #36
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I posted a couple of RL videos of just that on the previous page.
Looks pretty solid to me Maybe a little bit of pilot induced movement, but hard to tell at distance with handheld cam. If possible try find videos with camera mounted inside or outside of helicopter.

Also, how would these rockets create recoil? It blows straight through the pod. Only thing I can think of is changing weight distribution or rocket exhaust-gasses...
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Old 12-11-2019, 11:09 PM   #37
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Also, how would these rockets create recoil? It blows straight through the pod. Only thing I can think of is changing weight distribution or rocket exhaust-gasses...
Expanding exhaust gasses traveling backwards at a significant speed. They are NOT distributed one-dimensionaly (straight back), but expand and "grabbing hold of" the walls of the tube. When the rocket end leaves the tube the entire pod becomes a wall the gasses pushes on.
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