Collecting Signatures for ED to design piston aircraft for elementary flight trainer

Flight Sim World is calling for ya.

Should have said "If you reply, it counts as a signature" in fine print somewhere. xD

No.

I vote no because like the guys above said, GA has other sims for it right now. For aerobatic aircraft, I'm all for it! I await the CE2.

However, I don't think this is a good choice of aircraft for a western trainer. USAF training aircraft that might work instead would be the Northrop T-38 Talon, a supersonic trainer still in use today. It looks strikingly similar to our current F-5E. Or a Beechcraft T-6 Texan II, a prop. Both look good to me. Actually I like the look of that Texan. It's more commonly known, and is also still used today.

Not that this seems to need another "no" vote...

 

But here's another one anyway. No, thank you. There are fantastic civilian simulators out there already. I don't need or want a Piper/Cessna in DCS.

I wonder how many people wonder if this is a legitimate thread, or a trolling click-bait :D.

 

Hasn't RAZBAM started working on Tucano some time ago by the way?

But here's another one anyway. No, thank you. There are fantastic civilian simulators out there already. I don't need or want a Piper/Cessna in DCS.

The thing is, no there aren't. May be, and only may be, the new X-plane 11 has a better FM and physics than previous anything, still we haven't ever experienced a DCS level GA aircraft, and even though what many of you have said is quite right in general, people interest, "this is not a GA simulator" (that's not true, DCS is a sandbox of everything), why bother ED with their so tight timetable, still I personally would like to see some day a GA aircraft modelled to the last detail like in DCS so may be it could be certified for real training and DCS could be the definitive learning tool with a so real FM that one can actually learn real and useful things of the real deal while on ground.

 

In this subject, sorry to say but you all are being narrow minded keeping your thoughts in what you personally like while setting aside lots of things the platform could offer, maybe not tomorrow though, but why not some day.

 

 

S!

WE ALREADY HAVE A FIGHTER TRAINER,

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/planes/tiger/

 

and it is available for purchase!

 

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD..

 

:)

what you ask for has already been done by GA sims

Edited December 13, 2017 by philstyle

Negative

There is so much in the pipeline we have all been waiting for (for) so long...

 

There is a constant wish list for “this and that”. It will be a great day when what is currently in the pipeline comes to fuition and ED fine tunes the Sim.

 

For me, I’d rather see that happen before anything else.

 

A US Trainer like a Texan would not be a bad thing though... one day down the road.

 

But personally, it is no to the Cessna and it’s ilk.

Edited December 13, 2017 by MegOhm_SD
Cuz

Noo.

I wonder how many people wonder if this is a legitimate thread, or a trolling click-bait :D.

 

Hasn't RAZBAM started working on Tucano some time ago by the way?

 

Agreed about this being a legit thread. After the Magnitude 3 (LNS) fumble with their CE2 announcement and severe roasting, I have to say this is a very gutsy move or poor attempt of humor.

 

And for the record...NO!

It's also a no from me.

 

The clue is in the name..... Digital"Combat" Simulator.

 

Now...... where did I park that Spitfire............ :D

What is missing in DCS is the career mode in such a way as to unite every single module starting from a training biplane up to the Saber or Mig15. And start from yak52 up to the various Harrier F18 and so on. So doing so would create a soria within the endless game as well as entice to buy modules that otherwise would never buy ... of course all this as an option within DCS

In this subject, sorry to say but you all are being narrow minded keeping your thoughts in what you personally like while setting aside lots of things the platform could offer, maybe not tomorrow though, but why not some

 

 

"Digital Combat Simulator"

Maybe we are being narrow minded because we support DCS.

Respectfully this is not Mavis Beacons learn to fly stuff that doesn't blow other stuff up!

 

 

 

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Well that's pretty unanimous.

 

However, we definitely lack a basic trainer with the flight fidelity that DCS World can provide. How many here actually fly a plane correctly? Hardly any is my guess.

 

So I say yes.

Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full...

Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full...

 

Sorry sir that phrase has already been taken for this thread. :P

 

"Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full."

-Air Boss Johnson

Yes. :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

• Su-25T isn't really representative of the product (don't get me wrong, that's a plane i love)
  

 

• Tf-51D as a free demo plane is a terrible mistake that likely led many prospect to leave in frustration of not being able to even taxi.
  

 

• They is no basic tutorial in DCS, so they is no option for beginner to start off DCS, they need to go thru another simulation first or get an online training from a friend.
  

 

Eagle Dynamics should consider a free clickable trainer, with a little flying tutorial. That would make a nice demo.

 

 

I guess this forum is the last place you want to run such a poll - everyone in there are just part of the "DCS hardcore fans" crowd and has zero care for a new trainer, neither is representative of the market. They are just waiting for "yet another fighter jet". Just saying this without offense intended.

Edited December 13, 2017 by Darkwolf

Well that's pretty unanimous.

 

However, we definitely lack a basic trainer with the flight fidelity that DCS World can provide. How many here actually fly a plane correctly? Hardly any is my guess.

 

So I say yes.

 

Brave move.

 

 

On the Original post:

First off, your timing on the request is probably the worst possible, as Magnitude 3 just announced a GA Aerobatics aircraft and this riling the crowd quite a bit after a week-long teasing period.

 

Secondly, asking for a GA aircraft with such a tight timeframe just makes all possible voters run away, as every DCS user knows the utmost important thing for Eagle Dynamics at this time is to get the 2.5 out and then support it maximally to actually provide for a simulator that it fit for purpose (i.e. not broken all the damn time) and feature complete.

 

 

I personally don't see any harm in a developer tackling a GA aircraft in DCS, but I have to say it should regard a more realistic timeframe, and a developer with sufficient time on their hands. DCS as a platform does NOT need features to support light GA aircraft that it shouldn't have anyway! In that light, considerations that DCS would become a civilian sim are in my opinion ridiculous. In particular DCS needs a proper ATC system regardless of aircraft types in the sim, and that is already in the works. Adding GA aircraft does not require the altering of the base game. That is not a good counterargument.

 

Argumenting the nature of DCS by the title alone has merit yes, but it is not the whole story. DCS is described as a sandbox. Besides I see plenty of freeflight and aerobatic servers around. Does someone see those as a threat to DCS?

 

 

I don't mind GA in DCS, and a good argument for the is, that no other simulator comes to par with DCS level flight modeling. In that light some may look upon DCS and hope "if I could just fly my favorite aircraft with that much fidelity". I do mind if the developement of such aircraft interfere with the developement of the core game. Yes! DCS is a combat sim at heart. It damn well should be! But if someone capable wants to pop into DCS with a GA aircraft, be my guest.

 

 

So a yes form me to the concept. But a no for this particular proposal.

 

Regards,

MikeMikeJuliet

Edited December 13, 2017 by MikeMikeJuliet

For christ sake NO

 

ED would be better off building another platform for Civi stuff.

No, pls don't. The Yak-52 is already too much!

YES pls, probs are good aircrafts, but it must be some planes with military background, like PC-6, L-410, etc.

 

 

Or bigger ones like C130 ;)

Edited December 14, 2017 by Butcher868

I am sorry OP but most people who play DCS did so for combat roles in relatively modern aircraft.

I am sorry OP but most people who play DCS did so for combat roles in relatively modern aircraft.

 

WW2 or even WW1 but people need to leave DCS alone if they think its FSX lol