Rex Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 When I launch DCS, 3 out of 4 times it brings up the Splash screen, then does nothing. I'll wait for 5-10 minutes sometimes, but nothing happens. DCS shows in task manager but it's not creating any load, and that's it. So, I'll kill it then try again, and again, and eventually, it starts up. It's like there's some weird race condition or something that makes launching the game a type of roulette. Logs are of no help unfortunately. Unless the negative one's are diagnostic. === Log opened UTC 2020-07-06 05:41:02 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Command line: "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe" --force_disable_VR 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: DCS/2.5.6.50979 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18363) 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: DCS revision: 170977 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Renderer revision: 20606 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Terrain revision: 20611 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 8, threads: 16, System RAM: 65446 MB, Pagefile: 0 MB 2020-07-06 05:41:02.902 INFO EDCORE: (dDispatcher)enterToState_:0 2020-07-06 05:41:02.907 INFO Dispatcher: 2020/7/5 22:41 V1803061700 2020-07-06 05:41:02.924 INFO INPUT: Device [Keyboard] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:02.927 INFO INPUT: Device [F16 MFD 1 {FD68A650-4940-11ea-8001-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:02.927 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[F16 MFD 1 {FD68A650-4940-11ea-8001-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2020-07-06 05:41:02.933 INFO INPUT: Device [Throttle - HOTAS Warthog {5868FB40-00E4-11ea-8001-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:02.933 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[Throttle - HOTAS Warthog {5868FB40-00E4-11ea-8001-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2020-07-06 05:41:02.940 INFO INPUT: Device [Joystick - HOTAS Warthog {BC60AE20-FDA3-11e9-8001-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:02.940 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[Joystick - HOTAS Warthog {BC60AE20-FDA3-11e9-8001-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2020-07-06 05:41:02.941 INFO INPUT: Device [F16 MFD 2 {08B20DD0-4941-11ea-8002-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:02.941 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[F16 MFD 2 {08B20DD0-4941-11ea-8002-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2020-07-06 05:41:03.078 INFO INPUT: Device [Thrustmaster T300RS Racing Wheel {A78D6780-FCF5-11e9-8001-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:03.082 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[Thrustmaster T300RS Racing Wheel {A78D6780-FCF5-11e9-8001-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: yes, guidFFDriver: {7EC33D90-19CE-434e-8061-E2F879E204DE} 2020-07-06 05:41:03.083 INFO INPUT: Device [TPR T.Pendular Rudder {7A6B9B10-12E3-11ea-8001-444553540000}] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:03.083 INFO INPUT: Joystick created[TPR T.Pendular Rudder {7A6B9B10-12E3-11ea-8001-444553540000}], ForceFeedBack: no 2020-07-06 05:41:03.093 INFO INPUT: Device [Mouse] created deviceId = -1 2020-07-06 05:41:03.131 INFO SOUND: Using driver: wasapi (just waits here forever) Specs: i9-9900K 64GB DDR4 2080Ti 11GB ASUS Hero XI Wi-Fi 1TB Samsung EVO Plus NVME Drive + 4TB Spinner (ALL DCS stuff on nvme) Hotas Warthog + Throttle + TPR Pedals + 2MFD Pack from TM I buy my stuff directly from ED and not Steam (although Steam is installed)m and don't have Steam running when I use DCS. If anyone has any idea what might be happening, I'd appreciate any info. Thanks, Rex Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 BTW, it does this whether I use VR or Track IR Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog-IC Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 When I launch DCS, 3 out of 4 times it brings up the Splash screen, then does nothing. I'll wait for 5-10 minutes sometimes, but nothing happens. DCS shows in task manager but it's not creating any load, and that's it. === Log opened UTC 2020-07-06 05:41:02 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Command line: "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe" --force_disable_VR 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: DCS/2.5.6.50979 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.18363) 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: DCS revision: 170977 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Renderer revision: 20606 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: Terrain revision: 20611 2020-07-06 05:41:02.756 INFO DCS: CPU cores: 8, threads: 16, System RAM: 65446 MB, Pagefile: 0 MB Specs: i9-9900K 64GB DDR4 2080Ti 11GB ASUS Hero XI Wi-Fi 1TB Samsung EVO Plus NVME Drive + 4TB Spinner (ALL DCS stuff on nvme) Hotas Warthog + Throttle + TPR Pedals + 2MFD Pack from TM I know I will probably get my head ripped off for even suggesting this, but try enabling the WINDOWS PAGEFILE, I know you have a lot of ram, but depending on what expert you care to take advice from, running with no PAGEFILE is not considered good practice by some, just increase it and see if it makes any difference to the DCS startup. Cheers, Ian. Asus p877v-pro, Intel I7 3770k 4.2ghz, 32gb Ripjaw X ram, Nvidia RTX-2070 Super, Samsung 32" TV, Saitek x52 pro Joystick and Combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5, Win8.1 x64 with SSD and SSHD protected by (Avast AV). DCS Tech Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Maybe too obvious, but did you try cleanup/repair? System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_wood Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=202214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Thanks guys, will try. I disabled Pagefile on purpose since I have 64GB of RAM and don't like unnecessary write cycles on my SSD (and putting it on the spinner is too slow). That said, I am a Unix/Linux guy and purchased a Win10 machine 8 months ago solely for playing DCS and a couple of other games/sims (and for running large-ish VMs). In general, I am very much not a fan of the OS, but begrudgingly use it as a necessary evil for certain things. Linux is fine running w/out swap so long as memory is sufficient, so for better or worse, that's my frame of reference. If there's a chance that it needs a pagefile for whatever reason, I'll give it a shot. For this trial, I suppose I should "Let Windows Manage" the size? (shudders) Will also try the other suggestions. Thanks for the feedback! Edited July 6, 2020 by Rex Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Unfortunately, swap was not the problem Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I found something in the Windows Application Logs. What's odd is that this is completely intermittent. This morning, it started 3 times in a row without issue, then failed 2 times, then worked once, then failed 4 times. I do have a swap file running now. Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: DCS.exe P2: 2.5.6.50979 P3: 5ee8ccb3 P4: DCS.exe P5: 2.5.6.50979 P6: 5ee8ccb3 P7: c0000005 P8: 0000000000791531 P9: P10: Attached files: \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER2E8C.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml These files may be available here: \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\AppCrash_DCS.exe_e2bcec970d8cf9ee268d07bb4f9e2820fc3c3f_a8c78e39_62131301-e970-45c9-a401-b6cef2ae10b8 Analysis symbol: Rechecking for solution: 0 Report Id: a3f54556-1e0d-4588-bcb3-d09f0c68fb4b Report Status: 100 Hashed bucket: Cab Guid: 0 Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think it's a race for creation of one of the temp files Rex's Rig Intel i9-14900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5 | 3x4TB 990 Pro M2 SSDs | HP Reverb 2 | 49" Samsung 5120x1440 @ 120Mhz TM Warthog Stick + Throttle | TM Pendulum Pedals | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR | Cougar MFD x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 7, 2020 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hi can you attach your full log for us. Make sure windows and your display driver are up to date also. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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