Deadman's A-10 C Cockpit Build

Great stuff - as always! :thumbup:

Thanks a lot!

Hi Its even more expensive to purchase a switch that you think will work later to find out it completely wrong.I am providing this information so you guys can cross reference these switches, decide what quality of switch will work for you and provide the correct function if so desired I hope it helps.

Thanks for the information Deadman, it's a lot of money to buy these switches individually but very helpful to know for the future replacing cheap switches with real ones, one panel at a time

Here is a recap of most of the Left Counsel with out the radio panels

The Fuel panel

all of the toggle switches are MS24523-23 http://sensing.honeywell.com/product%20page?pr_id=34134

The line check push button in the upper right hand corner is MS25089-3G

http://www.ottoexcellence.com/store/...px?ItemId=3518

The Rcvr LT is a Clarostat P009 10 K potentiometer wit switch SPST On Offhttp://www.westfloridacomponents.com...ST+ON+OFF.html

The Fill Disable switches are MS-25089-3G-1 ALL valid part alternates - MS25089-3G-1, MIL-PRF-8805/3,MIL-PRF 8805/3, 011023689, 5930011023689

The AUX LTS panel

The Indexer and Status lights 2 Clarostat 53C1 SW 10k potentiometer

NVIS LTS MS 27408-4A

http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.p...tt=MS+27408-4A

HARS/SAS MS- 24659-23D

http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.php?ci_id=4128&la_id=1&Ntk=si_all_products&N =1235&Ntt=MS+24659-23D

Signal Lights and lamp test and Fire detect are

MS25089-3G

http://www.ottoexcellence.com/store/...px?ItemId=3518

The SAS panel

4 each SAS engage switches 25ET61-T

Monitor test switch MS 27720-27-1E

http://sensing.honeywell.com/product%20page?pr_id=32684

The T.O Trim push button in the upper right hand corner is MS25089-3G

The Throttle panel

3 each MS24524-23 for both fuel flow ,and APU start switches

2 each MS24659-31N for the Eng Oper

MS25089-3G L/G WRN

the flap switch will have to wait

The LASTE panel

EAC switch 25ET61-T

RDR ALTM MS 24659-23D

ENG MS25089-3G

PATH MS2708-4A

The Emergency Flight panel

EMER RETR

MS24659-23F

NORM / OVERRIDE

MS24525-23

Disengage 2 each

MS2708-4A

FLAP Emer retard

Man rev

MS 24659-23D

The Intercom panel

INT - HM are CLAROSTAT in out switched potentiometers VA388-10K BJ-3

VOL is a Small 10 K potentiometer

Rotary Selector Dial. is a 5 position rotary to get the correct angle between stops last unmarked position is used for TACAN audio (Morse ID)

Call MS25089-3G

The KY-58 panel

Zeroing switch MS 27734-23

Delay & on off switches 11TW1-3D

Plain, Mode, and Fill COLE F1845-104 9621 http://www.cole-switches.com/Products/index.html

The Stall Warning panel

2 Clarostat 53C1 SW 10k potentiometer

The Antenna Select panel

IFF ANT MS24659-21E

UHF UPPER MS27718-23

RADAR BEACON MS27753-38

Deadman,

as usual your posts are worth money !!!

Thanks for having you with us on ED.

That's interesting!

With the Antenna switch being an E-type the default positon should probably in the center and not to the rear like in DCS.

Also the EGI HQ TOD switch is modeled as a locking switch but in fact isn't.

As for the SPD EMER RETR - does it lock in the forward or aft position?

Thanks a lot,

Stefan

Thanks DM for all your research and sharing :thumbup: Although in my current stadium I'm far away from planning on switches, I'm pretty sure your postings will do a perect job for referencing later.

I just received my very first panel this week. It's a real IFF and I was completely surprised by the sheer amount of different switches...on just one single panel!

The IFF ANT select switch is locked in the center position meaning it must be pulled out of it.

The toggle will stay by it self in either the UPPER or LOWER positions.

On the cockpit interior check list in the -1 indicates the switch should be in the both or center position. So both by its design and by the manual yes its should be in the center.

The EGI HQ TOD switch? Do you mean the EAC switch on the LASTE panel?

The SPD EMER RETR switch is locked in the aft position but will stay by it self in the fore position.

That's interesting!

With the Antenna switch being an E-type the default position should probably in the center and not to the rear like in DCS.

 

Also the EGI HQ TOD switch is modeled as a locking switch but in fact isn't.

 

As for the SPD EMER RETR - does it lock in the forward or aft position?

 

Thanks a lot,

Stefan

Hey thanks for the kind though Its nice to know some one appreciates the effort. I don't think i will start selling any thing else no one seams to be all that interested other than a few hard cor builders.

Deadman,

as usual your posts are worth money !!!

 

Thanks for having you with us on ED.

The EGI HQ TOD switch? Do you mean the EAC switch on the LASTE panel?

No, I'm refering to the rightmost switch on the antenna panel.

However, there seems to be some variation to this switch/panel:

- The pictures of Rick Chin (A-10A) show this switch just labeled System with no additional label in the forward position, the center position marked as OFF and the backward position labeld DEACTIVATED .

- In the pictures of Keith LaFaille (A-10C) the switch is marked with EGI HQ TOD and you can select between ARC-210, OFF and ARC-164.

- The sim (1.1.0.9 - I know I should upgrade....:music_whistling:)has it labeled EGI HQ TOD too with SINGLE in the forward and DISABLE in the rear position.

I did some quick research on this panel I have been giving you guys the information off of real panels i have obliviously there have been changes in panel labeling over the years.

The switch labeled in other forms as well , referring to the -1 we have on page 1-122 the same labeling ans switching that I have,IFF ANT upper/both/ lower, UHF UPPER /Lower, RADAR BEACON single/ off/ double

The Modern Hog Guide pg 77 Shows an A-10 A with the panel is labels and switched as fallows

From Left to right IFF upper/both/ lower,Locking toggle lookds to be an e style UHF ANT upper/ lower, Looks to be a bat style ( non Locking ) EGI HQ TOD enable /disable Looks to be an D style Locking toggle switch

In the DSC A-10C manual I have the panel does not seam to be covered but by zooming in to pg 130 that switch is labeled EGI HQ TOD single/ double

Witch make sense the model in the sim does not have the AN/ARC 210 radio or the SAT ANT. As the aircraft in Keith's photos has . So it would not have the labeling yet on this panel. It all so shows that my panel is old :huh:

Looks like I need the Modern Hog Guide!

So if I got all correct then the IFF ANT switch stayed the same through all versions with an E-Type locking switch (MS24659-21E) and the upper/both/lower positions.

The middle switch changed from UHF ANT upper/both/lower to UHF ANT upper/lower to SAT ANT high/low.

The right switch changed from RADIO BEACON single/off/double to EGI HQ TOD enable /disable to EGI HQ TOD arc-210/off/arc164. The positions in the sim are probably a mixup of the single/double and the enable/disable. Both, double and disable end with "ble" and if the switch is to the rear that might be all you can read. (Or is there a photo/dokument with single/disable?)

Cheers,

Stefan

single/disable does not seam to make sense ,and i have not found a pic with that.So its kind of what if frogs had wings? The switch is a minor one and to tell you the truth i would label it as in the DSC manual and not worry about it

Any one interested in the right counsel? or should i guess at the switches on the Main instrument panel?

Right side would be nice.

Cheers,

Stefan

Any one interested in the right counsel? or should i guess at the switches on the Main instrument panel?

Both!!:)

The Main Instrument Panel

Jett Switch Red momentary push switch M8805/23-004, 5930-00-104-3475

Left Eng Fire pull, APU Fire pull, Right Fire Pull Pull/ push switches

Fire Extinguisher Discharge switch Three positions wedge head 5930-01-030-4156

Landing Gear Panel

Anti Skid Switch 25ET1-1

Landing taxi light 2Tl6-1

(AHCP) Just a guess

4x 12TW1-12A MS27754-34A

3x 12TW1-3D MS27721-231D

2x MS25306-232

1x 12TW1-1

HARS Fast Erect Main Instrument Panel ,and TEST IND Fuel Panel

5930-00-369-7703

Please goes a long way :smilewink:

Both!!:)

did not mean to be disrespectful, you are doing an incredible job of making it easier for everyone.

Thanks!

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(AHCP) Just a guess

 

4x 12tw2-10A

 

3x 12TW1-3D

[...]

I assume the 3x 12TW1-3D are the 2-position-switches for TGP, CICU and JTRS. However, do these switches in real have a lock in the center position?

For the four 3-position switches (MASTER ARM, GUN/PAC and LASER) that makes sense to me, but not for the 2-position switches.

I know you were just guessing....so am I ;)

To be honest, I've searched the HWL website up and down but I haven't found a non-locking version of that switch so far.

The Main Instrument Panel

Jett Switch Red momentary push switch M8805/23-004, 5930-00-104-3475

 

Left Eng Fire pull, APU Fire pull, Right Fire Pull Pull/ push switches

 

Fire Extinguisher Discharge switch Three positions wedge head 5930-01-030-4156

 

Landing Gear Panel

Anti Skid Switch 25ET1-1

Landing taxi light 2Tl6-1

 

 

(AHCP) Just a guess

 

4x 12tw2-10A

 

3x 12TW1-3D

 

2x MS25306-232

 

1x 12TW1-1

 

 

HARS Fast Erect Main Instrument Panel ,and TEST IND Fuel Panel

5930-00-369-7703

Hi Deadman,

r you selling or just share your vest information with us?

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Hi Deadman,

r you selling or just share your vest information with us?

Did you receive an invoice from DM? :music_whistling:

Nice idea with the beer-donation;)

:P invoice in the end of the year.

in the end of the year, we will have "Beer Thread", who gets the Max beer will get a gift.

Well, I'm not sure if starting a competition on that is a good thing. We should be really happy that guys like DM (and tons of other, but I hesitate to name more...that always bears the danger that I leave out some...) share the result of their labour-intensive investigations and just behave similar wherever we can.

For example, I'm thinking about setting up an Access database with details about all the parts/panels that are build in the Hog's pit for Cockpit builders. Originally, I started doing this for my own purposes only, but perhaps this information might help some others too. I will make the database public once it's more complete.

Since I have to get used to Access for work, it's a good opportunity to combine work and hobby ;)

Hi number one never assume it make an ass out of you and me just ask :smilewink:

You will see in the switch attachment that a D type switch is locked out of the center position so it is your two way switches on on or on off. That is the D (12TW1-3D) i corrected the PN, the A style switch is 12TW1-12A

Both are flat top locking switches with different lock types your pic is of an A switch.

I assume the 3x 12TW1-3D are the 2-position-switches for TGP, CICU and JTRS. However, do these switches in real have a lock in the center position?

 

 

 

For the four 3-position switches (MASTER ARM, GUN/PAC and LASER) that makes sense to me, but not for the 2-position switches.

 

I know you were just guessing....so am I ;)

 

To be honest, I've searched the HWL website up and down but I haven't found a non-locking version of that switch so far.

Hi I just thought to share what types of switches I have in the panels I have purchased over the years. I will not get in to selling switches you can find them on eBay and some electronic reseller sites quite reasonable priced when you look.

I may Sell some copies of the Main Instrument panel i have designed I am just saving up to make the prototype of it and a fire handle control housing if i do this it would be a limited run of them that would be able to support real instruments.

Thanks for the offer of a beer I will drop you a line through PM all the best

Hi Deadman,

r you selling or just share your vest information with us?

 

In Viperpits.org you can send a member :beer: on the house, but not just the Smiles, Beer.

The Smile is connected to the member paypal email , so when you send beer Smile, you will directly forward to paypal send money to his account , you just need to add the $.

 

i think it is nice way to gratitude someone contribution for this community.

i like to be the first

 

and i am sending you :beer: on the house of avlolga

Just send me your paypal email i will like to be the first.

 

there are great members in this forum that working hard for all of us and this tiny gratitude thing can make the diffidence.

 

:thumbup: