How much?!?!?!

That's nothing compared to the FSX/P3D/X-Plane add-on's which go up to over 100 dollars easily. Meanwhile the F-14 (at full release) comes with 2 variants, 2 campaigns, a list of weapons and gadgets you can use at your disposal. So all things considered 70 dollar's is actually a bargain if you ask me.

Cost me NZ$106 down in here in lil ole New Zealand!

It's a bargain. You can overstress the airframe, wreck, get shot down, trap on the boat, launch, do all the stuff an F-14 can do and it only cost 70 bucks. Alternatively, you could go drop 30k on a 1968 Cessna and deal with hangar fees, maintenance, certifications etc. And you only get to wreck that once.

70$ to fly the most legendary fighter of all time? It's a bargain if you ask me.

Not to mention:

2 F-14 models (A&B)

Aircraft-carrier

2 campaigns

Training missions

Jester RIO AI

We should really be paying much more.

Guys, one rather important aspect I don't see considered here is that this hobby of ours are enjoyed worldwide, by fellow pilots from very different countries when it comes to salaries, import taxes, sales taxes and such things. So throwing around prices for various hardware setups and claiming it sheep or robbery or anything in between really don't have to be correct in an other part of the world than your own. The price you pay might be like a month salary, while another guy has to spend a year salary to get the same setup.

And the price for our DCS modules are the same worldwide, and that will definitely affect different users economies in different ways, some will have to save for it a long time, while others just spend a dinners worth on it.

I don't take side, just want to broaden your view here a little.

Genuinely valid point. But OP is from Alabama, not Bangladesh :)

Genuinely valid point. But OP is from Alabama, not Bangladesh :)

Since this forum is an international one, judging price tags can generate very different reactions depending on location and social status. So dashing others opinion might not be perfectly fair.

Increasing price trades off against reduced sales. You sell at the optimum point where your product remains within finanical reach of the majority without underselling. Nothing more, nothing less.

Damn, some people are literally asking to pay more ? is it a SM forum or what ??

But the A model will always be in MX as it has PW engines :) so you really can't fly it.

Do we need all the drip pans we used to have to use for the F14?

I too was expecting $100 USD, and would have paid it x3 for all our gaming systems, and for a couple of friends in need as well. As Rrhode and others have pointed out, the current discounted price is an extremely good deal when comparing the F14A/B/2 Campaigns/etc to other products on the market in the simulation genre, and other games in general. The time, research, etc, should all be rewarded, as should future support.

Complaints on price are ridiculous IMO.

Also, just an FYI, Heatblur contributed a substantial donation to Cap from The Reapers on his GoFundMe for his cancer treatment situation. VERY generous, and I won't forget, Heatblur would have had my support regardless of such action, but now, I'll do whatever I can to positively inform other sim pilots in other games about the F14 for DCS.

I’m also genuinely of the opinion that I’d willingly pay more for the Tomcat. People seriously need to compare it to something like the price of a triple A title. In Australia that’s minimum $100/USD $70. Because you get more gameplay and hours out of a DCS module than any other game. If you complain that’s not the case then you clearly aren’t flying/studying a module to its full potential. The Tomcat is going to have my attention for years to come and allow me to live my childhood dream, which I think is something that I’d pay any price for.

I should have paid better attention. I bought the Hornet a few weeks ago and would much rather have the Tomcat. I could have waited and just flown the F-15 while waiting.

 

Once I have the F-14 the F/A-18 will collect dust. Money I can't afford to waste.

Hmm. They are so different that they fill different roles for me. I’ll grab the Hornet when I’m flying solo and I feel like using modern systems like JHMCS and the moving map etc and once feature complete putting a JDAM through somebody’s bathroom window.

The Tomcat (particularly the A+/B variants we are getting) is such a different beast, no fbw, no modern instruments, barely any HUD, ultra long range missiles, challenging handling and the ability to having talking ballast in the back seat ( :thumbup: ) mean that it’s going to require quite a different approach to flying it and using the aircraft effectively. Different enough that I expect to be flying both of them equally once the initial Tomcat excitement dies down. I wouldn’t say you’ve waste the money on the Hornet, it’s not really a similar aircraft beyond its carrier ability. Anyway. just my 2 cents

$70 bucks is the price you pay for a decent bottle of whisk(e)y. Quite frankly I think F-14 should cost more than that.

This reinforces what Holton181 was saying. To some, Johnny Black is a decent bottle of whiskey. To others, Macallan 18 is a decent bottle off Scotch. And to others, Oscuro is a decent bottle of Scotch.

So it's a moot point arguing the "it's cheap/expensive" Buy whatever module hardware you're willing to pay for and enjoy it! Don't worry about what others are buying/playing.

Hmm. They are so different that they fill different roles for me. I’ll grab the Hornet when I’m flying solo and I feel like using modern systems like JHMCS and the moving map etc and once feature complete putting a JDAM through somebody’s bathroom window.

 

The Tomcat (particularly the A+/B variants we are getting) is such a different beast, no fbw, no modern instruments, barely any HUD, ultra long range missiles, challenging handling and the ability to having talking ballast in the back seat ( :thumbup: ) mean that it’s going to require quite a different approach to flying it and using the aircraft effectively. Different enough that I expect to be flying both of them equally once the initial Tomcat excitement dies down. I wouldn’t say you’ve waste the money on the Hornet, it’s not really a similar aircraft beyond its carrier ability. Anyway. just my 2 cents

I agree, I'll still fly both. Mostly the F-14 though. F-18 won't become obsolete for me until the F-16 comes out.

People seriously need to compare it to something like the price of a triple A title.

no way, it's like comparing Herbie Hancock with Miki Minaj

The current price is set by the people who done the job, so only them know precisely to set the price according to real facts and values. AAA games, other ultra niche elitist addons on civilian sims, charity marketing pretexts (please, let me decide what laboratory I want to found, at least the ones I know) don't help to progress, its BS and non valid arguments.

The price looks fair indeed, DCS devs luckily respect people and they apparently are doing a present with this. So in my case I'll gladly accept that humbly and not bragging I still have money to offer like a sect member fanatic.

Anyway, Heatblur, ED, people are totally opened to any of your desires, charge them 180€ next time for their fix… the others that still need to check the product value for money are a nuisance.

AAA games, other ultra niche elitist addons on civilian sims, charity marketing pretexts (please, let me decide what laboratory I want to found, at least the ones I know) don't help to progress, its BS and non valid arguments.

I was referring to comparing them for their substance/replay-ability, you will get more gameplay from learning all the systems/subsystems + procedures in the Tomcat than that of a AAA FPS (Excluding Multiplayer because it applies to both without mention). Because where my point was directed at meaning is that people complain about the price, yet they don't play/learn the module to it's fullest intent.

I actually expected the price to be $100+. I wouldn't have bought at that price but that's what I thought the F14 would be.

I agree, I'll still fly both. Mostly the F-14 though. F-18 won't become obsolete for me until the F-16 comes out.

Amen :thumbup: Ain't nothin' like a Viper :harhar:

Guys, one rather important aspect I don't see considered here is that this hobby of ours are enjoyed worldwide, by fellow pilots from very different countries when it comes to salaries, import taxes, sales taxes and such things. So throwing around prices for various hardware setups and claiming it sheep or robbery or anything in between really don't have to be correct in an other part of the world than your own. The price you pay might be like a month salary, while another guy has to spend a year salary to get the same setup.

And the price for our DCS modules are the same worldwide, and that will definitely affect different users economies in different ways, some will have to save for it a long time, while others just spend a dinners worth on it.

I don't take side, just want to broaden your view here a little.

Very wise words there.

About the Heatblur F-14, sure the developers must be paid, and I would gladly pay even 100 € (115 USD as today) for it - because it is the Tomcat.

However, there's the problem regarding the need of increasingly expensive hardware to play these sims.

That's what I criticize, the HEAVY hardware prices (and quick obsolescence), really is the ungrateful aspect for many PC gamers around the world.

One must remember that an individual's purchase power varies from country to country, amongst other factors.

A little example from roughly 3 years ago:

Intel i7 4790K - 347 €

Asus Geforce GTX 770 (2 GB) - 313 €

16 GB DDR3 RAM memory - 130 €

Entry level Motherboard - 76 €

Entry level Joystick - 100 €

Not to mention the remaining components of a gaming PC, but you get an idea.

Minimum monthly wage here in Portugal at that time: 505 €

I would have gladly paid more for the Tomcat as well, especially given all the extra content in the works. That said I do not think it would be good for them to put the price much higher than $70. If they had an option to just get the B variant for $60 I am sure some people would have jumped at that. Not saying I would have though. In the end lower prices is always better for the consumer. Finding a price is a hard thing to do, too cheap and you will have to sell far too many to turn a profit, too expensive and you wont sell enough to make a profit. It is all about finding that middle ground.

I would pay 4 times as much to just have it NOW :)

Yeah, unbelievable price! Far far too cheap for all the work put in, and pleasure I'll get out of this amazing lump of software. How do you guys manage to push it out of the door for so little!

Most people would spend $70 or more on cigarettes or alcohol (or other stuff) in one night out on the town and not even think about it, think of the hours days months and years you'll get out of this module :)

$70 bucks is the price you pay for a decent bottle of whisk(e)y. Quite frankly I think F-14 should cost more than that.

Aye, concur.

When you're living on an SS check $70 is plenty. We're not all young and working. Think of others beside yourself.