Skyracer Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Been away from gaming for along time (years). Im gonna buy a computer for DCS and the new COD game. The rigg am planning to buy: Inter core I7- 3.6 GHZ Asus Geforce GTX 1060 6GB 16 gb ram Good enough, something to be exchanged? Monitor ideas? I dont really know what to look for? MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastyBaiter Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 What specific I7 are you talking about? I don't think it will be a problem but I can't say for sure unless you specify. Other than that, should work well for a normal 2d monitor. I ran 1440p on medium-high detail with an 8GB RX 480 very well in both DCS 1.5 and 2.x Alpha (NTTR map). The RX 480 8GB has virtually identical gaming performance compared to the GTX 1060 6GB. I've since moved to a GTX 1080 TI (for VR in DCS), a 1060 or RX 480 won't cut it for that. A system using AMD's R5 1600 or 1600x is also worth a look. That's what I'm running, very satisfied with it in DCS and all other games. System specs: i5-10600k (4.9 GHz), RX 6950XT, 32GB DDR4 3200, NVMe SSD, Reverb G2, WinWing Super Libra/Taurus, CH Pro Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVgamer72 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Definitely look at a Ryzen system. The bang of the buck (CPU/MB/Ram) with a Ryzen 1600X system is really unmatched by Intel. The money saved can be used to step up to a 1070/Vega56 and a monitor with G-Sync/FreeSync for better overall performance in DCS (and every other game out today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Definitely look at a Ryzen system. The bang of the buck (CPU/MB/Ram) with a Ryzen 1600X system is really unmatched by Intel. The money saved can be used to step up to a 1070/Vega56 and a monitor with G-Sync/FreeSync for better overall performance in DCS (and every other game out today). I agree SVgamer72, Would be a nice all round PC, if you move up to a 1070, you will definitely want to go for at least a 1440P x 2560 monitor. Here's one to give you an idea on some prices (usd) for parts. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vnWj9W Needs another drive for storage added. . i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I agree SVgamer72, Would be a nice all round PC, if you move up to a 1070, you will definitely want to go for at least a 1440P x 2560 monitor. Here's one to give you an idea on some prices (usd) for parts. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vnWj9W Needs another drive for storage added. . +1 from me too. Ryzen-1600X_6C/12T, 1070GTX or Vega56, 16GB + SSD would be my pick, value driven. The fastest you can get for DCS is the 7700k + good cooling ( The 1600X comes WOF as well, so plan on buying a good cooler either way ). The 1600X I am running ( office only ) runs flawless with moderate temps at 4G with a Noctua DH-15-SE Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadwell Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) if you can wait another few months, get coffee lake the 8700K, is supposed to have 11-15% more single threaded performance (IPC)than the 7700K (depending on what source you read) the boost clock is 4.7ghz, so it should be able to overclock to 5ghz with a decent cooler, and it's a 6 core cpu plus it's a mainstream cpu, not a high end desktop cpu, so it'll probably cost less than 500$ Edited August 23, 2017 by Hadwell My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyracer Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ok, little bit of update: Cpu and cooling Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Processor Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 4.2GHz, 8MB, 91W, 14nm, HD630 Cooler Master Hyper TX3i Komplett Ed. CPU Cooler for Intel LGA115x, 92mm fan, 800-2200 RPM DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT DDR4 16GB 2x8GB 2666MHz DDR4 GPU ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 DUAL OC Grafikkort, PCI-Express 3.0, 8GB GDDR5, DL-DVI-D, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x DisplayPort Monitor: Acer 24" Predator LED XB240H 1920x1080, 144hz, 1ms, 100m:1 Pretty much on the edge of my budget here ;) MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Seems fine to me ... tough perhaps you could reduce a bit the processor to a i7-7700 (instead of the 7700K) and with the 50 dollars price difference go with a wide view monitor, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/LG-29UM68-P-29-Inch-21-UltraWide/dp/B01B9IDLAW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1503871792&sr=8-2&keywords=lg+29UM68 Of course, this is just a suggestion as the monitor is more of a personal taste :) Best regards. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Pretty much on the edge of my budget here ;) Be smart, get an i5 7600K, for the same performance than the i7 for gaming.:thumbup: Or get a Ryzen. Edited August 27, 2017 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 About the cpu heatsink, get a 4 heat pipes cooler, 3 heat pipes is not enough for a 91w cpu. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminum Donkey Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Been away from gaming for along time (years). Im gonna buy a computer for DCS and the new COD game. The rigg am planning to buy: Inter core I7- 3.6 GHZ Asus Geforce GTX 1060 6GB 16 gb ram Good enough, something to be exchanged? Monitor ideas? I dont really know what to look for? Instead of that Core i7 CPU, get an i5-7600K. The i7 doesn't really give any improvement in gaming. Games don't use 8 threads, they're heavily dependent on single-threaded performance, and the i5 K versions can be overclocked, but are cheaper than an i7 and will perform every bit as well at lower cost. The i5 is a 4-core CPU without hyperthreading, so it runs 4 threads max (games generally don't use hyperthreading, or don't use it well, and DCS only uses two threads.) With the money saved, don't get a GTX 1060, get a 1070 or better. Now, you'll have a great gaming rig that will run anything at full settings. DCS World is *very* hard on video cards at max settings, and you'll be really glad you got a GTX 1070 (or better) instead of that Core i7 CPU, which would have cost a lot more and wouldn't have contributed at all to better performance! The 1060 is also marginal for 1440p displays, the 1070 is well suited to that. 16GB of RAM is plenty, especially with an 8GB video card. Also, don't forget to get a good CPU cooler. I use a Hyper 212 Evo, which is excellent and fairly cheap. Peace and happy warfare AD Kit: B550 Aorus Elite AX V2, Ryzen 7 5800X w/ Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury DDR4 @3600MHz C16, Gigabyte RTX 3070 Windforce 8GB, EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 PSU, HP Omen 32" 2560x1440, Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS fitted with Leo Bodnar's BU0836A controller. --Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground, and having all the rules and regulations get in the way! If man was meant to fly, he would have been born with a lot more money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 +1 for Demon: one 92mm fan on 3 pipes wont be able to cool the 7700k if you intend to overclock. Either a Noctua air cooler ( DH15 ) or a AIO watercool system fits better imho. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyracer Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Back to ryzen Monitor: AOC 27" LED FreeSync G2770PF 1920x1080, 144hz, 1ms, Speakers, Pivot, VGA/DVI/HDMI/DP CPU AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor Socket-AM4, 6-Core, 12-Thread, 3.6/4.0GHz, 95W Cpu cooling Corsair Hydro Series H55 CPU Kylare 120mm Radiator, 115x/2011/2011-3/2066, AM2/AM3, 1700 RPM, 57 CFM DDR 4 Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4 3000MHz 16GB 2x8GB 3000MHz (PC4-24000) DDR4 CL15 GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Grafikkort, PCI-Express 3.0, 8GB GDDR5 Power supply Is 500w enough? or should i go for 700w? Final thougts? MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminum Donkey Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Back to ryzen Monitor: AOC 27" LED FreeSync G2770PF 1920x1080, 144hz, 1ms, Speakers, Pivot, VGA/DVI/HDMI/DP CPU AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor Socket-AM4, 6-Core, 12-Thread, 3.6/4.0GHz, 95W Cpu cooling Corsair Hydro Series H55 CPU Kylare 120mm Radiator, 115x/2011/2011-3/2066, AM2/AM3, 1700 RPM, 57 CFM DDR 4 Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4 3000MHz 16GB 2x8GB 3000MHz (PC4-24000) DDR4 CL15 GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 Grafikkort, PCI-Express 3.0, 8GB GDDR5 Power supply Is 500w enough? or should i go for 700w? Final thougts? That looks like a great choice for GPU and RAM, you'll love the GTX 1070. I don't know much about AMD processors other than that the new Ryzen ones are supposed to be very good. If you do get one of those instead of an Intel, make sure your motherboard supports overclocking, because it'll come in really handy for 'heavy' missions in DCS that have a lot of active vehicles and aircraft. Remember--when choosing a CPU for DCS World (and other gaming) always choose one based on single-threaded performance bechmarks, not overall scores, because hyperthreaded CPUs and CPUs with lots of cores will always have high overall scores--that won't help with most gaming, and certainly won't do any good in DCS! Don't forget a really good CPU cooler, because AMD stuff generally gives off more heat than similar Intel CPUs at a given performance level, although that may have changed recently. Personally, I wouldn't bother with watercooling--plenty of great air coolers out there, and they're cheaper and also continue to work if the fan conks out :) Plus, fans are cheap and easy to replace, especially on an air cooler. Peace and happy warfare AD P.S. I almost forgot--the i5-7600K is about the same price as that AMD Ryzen 5, but has significantly better benchmark scores for single-thread performance. If I were you, I'd get the i5-7600K instead. You'll be very pleased with how it performs, and you won't even have to overclock it if you don't want to. Edited August 29, 2017 by Aluminum Donkey Kit: B550 Aorus Elite AX V2, Ryzen 7 5800X w/ Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury DDR4 @3600MHz C16, Gigabyte RTX 3070 Windforce 8GB, EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 PSU, HP Omen 32" 2560x1440, Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS fitted with Leo Bodnar's BU0836A controller. --Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground, and having all the rules and regulations get in the way! If man was meant to fly, he would have been born with a lot more money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The Vega-56 card is faster in most tests than 1070 and would have freesync...!?? 600w was better imho, 700w max. unless you plan for the unknown My 1600x runs super nice on 4G all cores with the Noctua DH-15_SE AM4 version. The H55 is a single 120 rad/fan and will likely struggle to keep up with the Noctua, i am pretty sure with that. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVgamer72 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 My Ryzen7 1700 @3.8Ghz (I could prob OC higher, but can't be bothered) on the stock cooler with a GTX1070 runs DCS with no problems. I get the same average FPS reported as other GTX1070 users (including running i7s @5Ghz) in and out of VR. They may get a handful of frames more, but the difference is really just bragging rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Get a good 600-650w psu: https://www.thetechgame.com/Archives/t=5613293/power-supply-guide-the-good-and-the-bad.html http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers My NH-D14 is very quiet and less expensive than the D15. Edited September 2, 2017 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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