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Old 02-16-2020, 08:35 AM   #21
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~6,000lbs fuel, 2x empty bags, 2xAIM9 2xAIM120, TPOD, boards out all through approach.

Touchdown on-speed AoA (13 degrees) 150kts on the captains bars right after the arresting cable. Full aft stick just to keep the nose up with 11 degrees AoA. Ease the nose down at 100kts, rubber meets tarmac 97kts. Immediately start breaking with about half pressure. Slowed to 20kts by the time I reached the captain bars on the opposite end of the runway.

Seems like a long rollout. I get roughly the same rollout in a light Hornet, planting all three gear down and slamming the brakes. Should I be slamming the brakes in the Viper as well? In other modules that has typically given me blown tires.
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Old 02-16-2020, 08:46 AM   #22
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Wrong technique if you want to achieve the shortest possible landing distance.

Why should the tires blow with a working anti-skid system?
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:49 AM   #23
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Wrong technique if you want to achieve the shortest possible landing distance.
How helpful. Telling people they're wrong without correction is a waste of everyone's time.
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:05 AM   #24
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How helpful. Telling people they're wrong without correction is a waste of everyone's time.
? Bouli306 exactly explained how you should do it on the previous page.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:41 AM   #25
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That's exactly how the manual describes the short field technique. Apply max wheel braking and aerobraking at the same time.
You pull back on the stick to keep the nose up while you wheel brake. When the nose finally drops your stick should already be firmly at full nose up deflection.
You modulate the brake pressure to control how hard the nose comes down, because the reduction in down force from the elevators is a function of the decreasing airspeed.. the nose doesn't really slam anyways.


That's how it's done.
With 2000lbs left and just sidewinders I brought the F-16C to a full stop on 2L in Jean, NV (0L7). That runway is 4600ft long at an elevation of 2835ft MSL. I estimate my landing distance (ground roll) at less than 4100 ft.
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Old 02-17-2020, 07:24 AM   #26
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It’s entirely possible to feather the wheel brakes while holding the nose up and applying the extended air brakes.
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It’s entirely possible to feather the wheel brakes while holding the nose up and applying the extended air brakes.
There's not too much WoW and hence rather low brakes effectiveness in the aerobraking attitude. With a working antiskid, the nose down moment shouldn't be too excessive, even with full brake application.
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It’s entirely possible to feather the wheel brakes while holding the nose up and applying the extended air brakes.
What's feathering?
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:59 PM   #29
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Lightly modulating the brake pressure.
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