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Old 12-03-2019, 06:09 PM   #1
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Default Is the Mk108 30mm Canon on the A8 Load out?

Most A8's have a 30mm canon load out option. Does the DCS version have it? Im thinking of getting this bird

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Old 12-03-2019, 06:12 PM   #2
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Most A8's have a 30mm canon load out option. Does the DCS version have it? Im thinking of getting this bird

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No, and the 190 doesn't have a nose cannon
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:58 PM   #3
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On some Fw-190 Rüstsatz mods ( R2 / R8 ) a pair of Mk108 guns replaced the outer wing MG151/20 cannons. I hope we will get them eventually, as well as other weapons already implemented in DCS as the W.Gr.21 rockets.
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No, and the 190 doesn't have a nose cannon
The 190A8 has a radial engine, therefore it would not have a nose canon, just 2 mg's up front. Some A8's had wing or gondola mounted mk108's, but I guess not in the DCS version
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MK108 in outer wing wing positions were relatively common for some units, IMO this modfication will be welcome in DCS W.
I do not think that 30mm cannons in gondolas were used by operational units apart from some unsuccessful tests.
But we need proper wing capable to carry 108s. If we get F-8, which was promised, we shold get it, it was common (or standard?) for F-8/9 variant.

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Personally I'd prefer the 20s over the 30s. Better ballistics and more of the ammunition. The current armament is already heavy enough to vaporize fighters.

I can only see this being used in the ground attack or bomber interceptor (for a 190A though..?) role. Was it used in one of these roles during the war?
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I can only see this being used in the ground attack or bomber interceptor (for a 190A though..?) role. Was it used in one of these roles during the war?
Yes, there were A-8 bomber destroyer versions. I don't think they'd be all that nice to fly - the 108's ballistics aren't great and the Sturmbock versions were very heavy & not something you'd want to dogfight in ( which is why they had 109 escorts ). If we want a heavy 190 let's go all the way with an F model - that's basically an A with some underside armour & a bit of strengthening, and a lot more A2G munitions.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:23 AM   #8
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However, the Fw 190 F8 has the outer wing MG 151/20 cannons removed to save weight. One planned modification of the F series had two much heavier MK 103 30 mm cannons installed in under wing gondolas, intended as anti tank weapon, but this wasn't used much operationally, if at all.
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However, the Fw 190 F8 has the outer wing MG 151/20 cannons removed to save weight. One planned modification of the F series had two much heavier MK 103 30 mm cannons installed in under wing gondolas, intended as anti tank weapon, but this wasn't used much operationally, if at all.
The F8 had MG-131s in the cowling instead of the 17s, though. With all the extra stores racks too I think it'd be an interesting change. I guess a Sturmbock would be a pretty good ground strafing machine at least
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Old 12-06-2019, 03:27 PM   #10
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Rüstsatz kits cause a huge headache when trying to work out what kit was used by which unit and when or at all. Then further add to the problem that some Rüstsatz kits became standard factory production fits , its easy for confusion to reign.


And that`s not even just a problem from historical perspective, Focke Wulf themselves in 1944 had to reorganise their production office to try an keep track of all the different modifications being applied by maintenance depots and the 10 or so licenced production companies and then all the companies involved with refurbishments.


I don`t think even the Luftwaffe high command had a handle on it. For example in Oct 1944 they ordered the firm Klemm to convert 20 planes a month (from new production and refurbishment) to conventional torpedo bombers (R14?) even though production of torpedo`s in Germany had ended in Sept 1944!
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