Guest Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ok I just checked in 2.2 and it is not fixed. So I dont know who said that checked in 2.2 but was wrong. Even CCRP and CCIP precision are worse than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I doubt it, since the most likely is that nothing has been touched in that area. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 What changed in 2.2 is that the bombs(MK82 tested) are released automatic. You press and hold the trigger as soon as you see the "moving bar" and as soon as that "hits the release cue" the bombs are released. In 1.5.8 it is the old "style", the bombs drop as soon as you press the trigger, i believe. But the accuracy in dropping MK82 bombs is crap. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1 System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 What changed in 2.2 is that the bombs(MK82 tested) are released automatic. You press and hold the trigger as soon as you see the "moving bar" and as soon as that "hits the release cue" the bombs are released. In 1.5.8 it is the old "style", the bombs drop as soon as you press the trigger, i believe. But the accuracy in dropping MK82 bombs is crap.Well, like I said that doesnt seem to happen in 2.2. I tested it twice. And it is not "old style", its a bug :) Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Well, like I said that doesnt seem to happen in 2.2. I tested it twice. And it is not "old style", its a bug :) Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk I know that my "old style" is a bug but in 2.2 it works like i discribed it, "only" the accuracy is crap but the bombs will not release instant when you press and hold the trigger as soon as you see the moving bar! You should test it again! I have a little test mission for the mirage that i flew the last couple of days, it's air-ground training. Thats 90% of what i do in the Mirage and i know that this behavior is new in 2.2 Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1 System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Tested it 5 mins ago and they release on trigger. Repaired inatall and same behaviour Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 +1 with Unknown. Bombs don't drop instantly. Target cross not being placed where CCRP diamond is placed is only problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You guys are not talking about the same thing, the CCIP and CCRP modes release work as they should. But in the CCRP PI (INS bombing) mode the bomb drop as soon as you press the trigger, that is the bug. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Tested it 5 mins ago and they release on trigger. Repaired inatall and same behaviour Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Then there is something wrong at your end? I marked a point on the ground for testing it in the video and pressed and hold the trigger just befor i switched to the F2 outside view, the bombs released automatic in the F2 view as i hold the trigger all the time. EDIT: You guys are not talking about the same thing, the CCIP and CCRP modes release work as they should. But in the CCRP PI (INS bombing) mode the bomb drop as soon as you press the trigger, that is the bug. Oh that could explain the different behavior. Thank you for clarification! Edited December 12, 2017 by unknown Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1 System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Omg, yes. We are. The bug referred here is the precision ins bombing. Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Sorry. My bad. Piston originally mentioned CCRP. I didn't realize INS is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The bug referred here is the precision ins bombing. We might be better using CCRP PI as this bombing mode does not provite much pecision... :D Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 We might be better using CCRP PI as this bombing mode does not provite much pecision... :DLOL!!! Agreed. Ccrp pi from now on. Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 CCRP doesn't work that bad if only targeting cross appeared where its supposed to. After adjusting for error I'm landing bombs pretty much right on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 CCRP doesn't work that bad if only targeting cross appeared where its supposed to. After adjusting for error I'm landing bombs pretty much right on target.In the top of the diamond? That doesnt work for me. Or you mean in betweeen? Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 When you press designate ground target I assume the cross should be perfectly centered over middle of diamond. Its always long and to the left or right. In pic I would guess its 50 t0 100 feet off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Jeez id love the ccrp and ccip to be fixed!! Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 This is what should happen when you press designate target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Jeez id love the ccrp and ccip to be fixed!! Enviado desde mi Moto Z Play mediante Tapatalk Yes. Its sad I have better luck bombing something with P-51 or F-5 than M-2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yes. Its sad I have better luck bombing something with P-51 or F-5 than M-2000. Yeap, especially in such a great plane. Ever since I bought it, she is the only bird I fly. Imagine if Razbam fixed all the bugs. Unfortunately they are so many that it will take a lot fo time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gliptal Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 More like the systems dev hasn't been active on the M-2000C since a lot of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 When you press designate ground target I assume the cross should be perfectly centered over middle of diamond. Its always long and to the left or right. In pic I would guess its 50 t0 100 feet off. I don't know what you expect with the + in the HUD, but it isn't supposed to move when you designate a target for direct CCPL. The + is the position of the waypoint and may drift if you activated the INS drift option (yet in real life the "option" is always activated :smilewink:) Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I don't know what you expect with the + in the HUD, but it isn't supposed to move when you designate a target for direct CCPL. The + is the position of the waypoint and may drift if you activated the INS drift option (yet in real life the "option" is always activated :smilewink:) The + you see in my pic is not the waypoint cross. Its the target cross that should appear exactly on the spot of my designator when I designate a target for CCRP.(see page 135 of manual) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 The + you see in my pic is not the waypoint cross. Its the target cross that should appear exactly on the spot of my designator when I designate a target for CCRP.(see page 135 of manual) Did you see any "target" ("cible" in French) on the PCN to tell the system a waypoint is a "target " ? I'm telling you, believe me or not. There are videos on the web with HUD footage, and the + doesn't move during attack. You have the same + in the HUD when inside of 10Nm from the waypoint in nav mode no weapon selected and master arm off. In fact, you could attack a target anywhere, the waypoint plays no part in "direct CCPL". You may attack a target 10Nm from the waypoint in your 06 o'clock, it wouldn't make a difference for the system. But since targets are difficult to spot visually, it's a big help to have the coordinates and input it in the navigation system. It's the case where a bug/ mistake has been corrected in the module, but maybe nit in the manual/ guide. :book: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What Jojo is trying to say (I think) is that when you designate a target for CCRP no plus (+) sign should appear on the HUD at the designated location, because the plus sign is reserved to waypoint position. Is it correct Jojo ? Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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