Ironhand Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 That's not true what he says its that with the stick position you control AOA regardless of speed that's why a landing can be made with just the AOA Landing can be made with AoA and correct airspeed. As Vatikus says, he's not saying that 10 degrees of stick position equals "x" amount of AoA. Stick position and airspeed work together. His point in that sequence is to explain why it's important not to pull back on the stick in certain situations. Doing so will increase your AoA for the speed you are traveling...and, potentially, kill you. That's why he says: "Use the elevator to control your AoA and the throttle to control your glide angle." If you are slipping below your glide path, he advises that it's safer to increase your airspeed rather than pull back on the stick because that will keep you below the critical AoA. But just before that sequence is the landing sequence in turbulence. Right around the 10:30 mark (or just slightly after as he's close to landing) the airspeed indicator will start bouncing noticeably. At the same time, the AoA varies widely along with it. That's the relationship of airspeed to stick position. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icaro_07 Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 https://www.pprune.org/tech-log/10076-stall-stick-position.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Does any one knows if for every trim setting a stick position corresponds to an specific AOA because if it's that way it stalls at different AOA Short answer, no, stall doesn't depend on a stick position. That's something you came up with but has nothing to do with aerodynamics. No trim position is bound to a stick position, it's related to lift and weight and weight is always changing in flight. If you "keep the stick in a position" as you say you're just pulling whatever G's, airspeed will decrease, AoA will increase, and in the end you'll stall the aircraft. That's all and it's not a "Fw190" feature, that's what happens in every aircraft in the World. I don't really understand what your point is, or why you wrote in Dora forum and not other aircraft which could be the same. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyge Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 You can practically stall any plane by just pulling the nose some 60° up, center the stick, pull the throttle back and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icaro_07 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 https://www.quora.com/Are-we-changing-the-angle-of-attack-by-changing-the-pitch-of-an-aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoll Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Why do everyone who has anything to say about anything but the Fw190 post their messages here? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icaro_07 Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Is the same in every plane but I bought that module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icaro_07 Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 You can practically stall any plane by just pulling the nose some 60° up, center the stick, pull the throttle back and wait. That’s not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 That’s not true High AoA and no propulsion equals decreasing airspeed equals a stall after you go below Vs. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted April 29, 2019 ED Team Share Posted April 29, 2019 High AoA and no propulsion equals decreasing airspeed equals a stall after you go below Vs. You even have not to make high AoA. You can fly with zero lift and very small AoA climbing at 70 degrees and decelerating. At the moment your parabolic flightpath will change faster than your plane can follow it keeping AoA because of MOI and very low aerodynamics moments due to low IAS. You can easily get much more AoA than 90 degrees (tail sliding) and then pass through the whole range of AoAs. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Of course Yo-Yo. I just stressed it because at a constant high AoA, you can't glide forward and thus gain airspeed and get out of the stall. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icaro_07 Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 You can be at high AOA and not stall, what will happen is that the nose of the airplane will come down because the speed has reduced and that makes that the component of lift reduce too, so as the speed increases the component of lift increases but you kept constant AOA through the maneuver. And you can stall the airplane at any speed, what stall the plane is Critical AOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) What stalls a plane is either too low an airspeed since the wings don't generate enough lift anymore, or too high an AoA because the airflow separates from the wing surfaces. EDIT: Yes, a bad explanation, talking s***e here Edited May 1, 2019 by msalama The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 What stalls a plane is either too low an airspeed since the wings don't generate enough lift anymore, or too high an AoA because the airflow separates from the wing surfaces. wing alwayes stall becouse to high AOA if you manage to keep low AOA wing will not stall System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Hmmm... well yes, was thinking about accelerated stalls versus those where you go below Vs and kind of got misled. You're right, exceeding critical AoA is always a factor. Edited May 1, 2019 by msalama The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 !!!!!!!!!!! The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoll Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 BTW, what is the difference between this awsome news today about Damage Model and this one : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3001310&postcount=63 Except two and a half years ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 BTW, what is the difference between this awsome news today about Damage Model and this one : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3001310&postcount=63 Except two and a half years ? .....and this image showing it in game Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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