Nealius Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just flew a winter mission, -1C QNH30.05 (if I remember correctly) and I was able to start the engine without priming. I also did not need to use the wobble pump as the fuel pressure warning lamp was extinguished from the very start. Track attached: Google Drive track file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Fuel warning lamp extinguished because you switched On "Fuel Pump Switch" and thus pressurized fuel system. Then you do not need use Wobble pump, it is correct. I do not know if is possible/correct start without engine prime, i think no, but... F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 You should only use the fuel pump at take off (when you are on the runway and ready to go), until you have landed again. The wobble pump will provide enough pressure for starting and taxiing. If the pressure drops and the fuel pressure warning light is asserted, use the wobble pump again until it extinguishes. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 You should only use the fuel pump at take off (when you are on the runway and ready to go), until you have landed again. Just curious: What's the reason for that? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Ah, that explains the fuel pressure. What about priming? I've made four flights, ranging from summer, fall, winter, and each time I did not prime the engine at all before starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 According to the actual Pilot's Notes for Spitfire IX, operating the booster pump without the fuel cut-off or the engine running can inject fuel into the supercharger and cause a serous risk of fire. Once the engine is running, there should be no need for the booster, and since you have the wobble pump, there's not need to use it before take-off. Also, a slight correction. The Notes say in the landing check-list, to turn the booster off, so actually before landing, not after. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I don't know about your issue with priming. I've always done about the same as in the P-51. I start turning the engine over without ignition to lubricate, and after 6 blades I prime and turn on the magnetos, priming for about 4-5 seconds; longer if it's cold. If the engine is warm, I'll just give it a 1-2 second squirt before starting (no need to turn over without power, bc the engine is already lubricated) and hit the magnetos and starter at the same time. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I start turning the engine over without ignition to lubricate, and after 6 blades I prime and turn on the magnetos, priming for about 4-5 seconds; longer if it's cold. To put it bluntly, that's a kind of strange way to go through the start up process, priming while turning over. Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 AFAIK the normal procedure would be for the ground crew to manually turn the prop over 6 blades, but sans ground crew, the only way to do this would be to use the starter. Ofc you could use the starter for 6 blades, then let the starter cool down --I've honestly never tried to burn out the starter on the Spitfire, but I used to do it regularly in the Mustang :D -- and then prime and start the engine, but why go through the extra trouble. Even the manual says, if the engine is not firing to add priming while turning the engine over. I'm just taking the procedure one step more consequent. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 So....no input on the actual problem of the Spit starting without using the primer? The Yak can be started without priming as well, and even in the Bf 109 priming doesn't work, making us use the fuel pump every time. Is priming even modeled in DCS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 7, 2019 ED Team Share Posted February 7, 2019 Interesting, I just reported the Yak for the priming issues, I will look at this one as well. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted February 7, 2019 ED Team Share Posted February 7, 2019 Reported, seems to affect the P-51 as well. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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