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Not just me but surely this would effect FPS loading etc?

 

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Dears,

 

I have just downloaded release version of DCS World 2.5 installed and tested Quick Start Ka-50 runway start mission.

 

While it was loading, I went to make and eat quickly supper, used restroom, go again to fridge and bring a beer... and it was still loading.

 

Upon finally entering the pit. I have taken off to fly only the race track pattern around the runway. I have experienced stuttering, some were few seconds long (basically a freeze). After few minutes stutters reduced.

 

Machine is ROG ASUS GL703 SCAR EDITION 17inch. It has 16GB of RAM.

 

Please remember that was a Quick Start Ka-50 runway hot start mission. Nothing fancy.

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Dears,

 

I have just downloaded release version of DCS World 2.5 installed and tested Quick Start Ka-50 runway start mission.

 

While it was loading, I went to make and eat quickly supper, used restroom, go again to fridge and bring a beer... and it was still loading.

 

Upon finally entering the pit. I have taken off to fly only the race track pattern around the runway. I have experienced stuttering, some were few seconds long (basically a freeze). After few minutes stutters reduced.

 

Machine is ROG ASUS GL703 SCAR EDITION 17inch. It has 16GB of RAM.

 

Please remember that was a Quick Start Ka-50 runway hot start mission. Nothing fancy.

 

First load is always a decent amount of work, but if you tried it again, you would see it load much faster, also, do you have DCS on a SSD drive? makes a bit of difference as well.

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SSD's make a ton of difference.

 

Also... you can get 128GB SSD's pretty cheap these days. Even the slow, extra cheap ones will be a great deal better than a platter drive.

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Luckily that version is still available to you, but ED wants to keep pushing DCS into the future, this means specs and demands on our systems will continue to climb. I imagine they will stabilize now that 2.5 is out, and they will continue to optimize, but some machines will need to be upgraded, its just part of the world of gaming.
Well, "world of gaming" it surely isn't. The only thing my rig is lacking is 2GB VRAM for the up to date "world of gaming".

As far as I remember, DCS have always had troubles with optimization. The only exceptions are A-10C and pre-1.5.6. It has always hurt DCS playerbase. As for now, it would be nice to check if it won't scourge that playerbase. Like I said, not everyone knows how to enable 1.5.6. in their Steam launcher and why should they do that. Remember: when you push too far, you fall out of that window (see "planking").

I just hope that when DM update comes, it will happen to all versions, including 1.5.6 and 1.5.8.

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Well, "world of gaming" it surely isn't. The only thing my rig is lacking is 2GB VRAM for the up to date "world of gaming".

As far as I remember, DCS have always had troubles with optimization. The only exceptions are A-10C and pre-1.5.6. It has always hurt DCS playerbase. As for now, it would be nice to check if it won't scourge that playerbase. Like I said, not everyone knows how to enable 1.5.6. in their Steam launcher and why should they do that. Remember: when you push too far, you fall out of that window (see "planking").

I just hope that when DM update comes, it will happen to all versions, including 1.5.6 and 1.5.8.

 

From my experience over a long time of flying flight/combat flight simulations it was always necessary to have a decent, as in as good as you can get for money, PC to go somewhere near "high" settings. If you wanted all bells and whistles it meant to wait another year or two, until the necessary hardware was actually available.

 

Compared to the 90ies DCS is a real treat. With normal high end hardware we are able to play more or less with everything on high in 1080p. Only extreme resolutions like 4k and beyond or VR-Headsets, require extreme performance hardware like a GTX 1080Ti and 4.8 GHz OC i7 CPUs.

 

If you take into account, the visibility and rendering distances, modeled to a decent detail over heights from 50ft through 1000 ft to 50k ft and it looks great and believable over that range,the new ED Graphics Engine is doing a great job, already.

 

As said above 1.5.8 and previous will no longer get updates.

Similar to a Playstation 4 game that will not run on a Playstation 2.

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Going back to 1.5 does not make sense... I tried doing that every time I got frustrated with 2.5 but going to 1.5 (although more stable) feel like being stuck in limbo or purgatory). I decided to stick with 2.5 and ride thru the bugs with ED.

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Well, "world of gaming" it surely isn't. The only thing my rig is lacking is 2GB VRAM for the up to date "world of gaming".

As far as I remember, DCS have always had troubles with optimization. The only exceptions are A-10C and pre-1.5.6. It has always hurt DCS playerbase. As for now, it would be nice to check if it won't scourge that playerbase. Like I said, not everyone knows how to enable 1.5.6. in their Steam launcher and why should they do that. Remember: when you push too far, you fall out of that window (see "planking").

I just hope that when DM update comes, it will happen to all versions, including 1.5.6 and 1.5.8.

 

Older versions will not receive updates. That is why they are old versions.

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Going back to 1.5 does not make sense... I tried doing that every time I got frustrated with 2.5 but going to 1.5 (although more stable) feel like being stuck in limbo or purgatory). I decided to stick with 2.5 and ride thru the bugs with ED.

 

I use this analogy all the time, but ED is renovating our house while we are living in it, we can either stay here and step over the occasional problem, or we can go stay in a hotel until its ready.

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1.5 Compared to 2.5 is an Econo Lodge...

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I use this analogy all the time, but ED is renovating our house while we are living in it, we can either stay here and step over the occasional problem, or we can go stay in a hotel until its ready.

 

Not a bad analogy, except ED's workers keep jumping around from one room to another and none of the rooms seem to get finished. I get that it is complicated but it can still be frustrating when you just want to enjoy the sim.

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Not a bad analogy, except ED's workers keep jumping around from one room to another and none of the rooms seem to get finished. I get that it is complicated but it can still be frustrating when you just want to enjoy the sim.
Like with a house... You wait for the electrician to finish his job and and move on to the restroom instead of putting wallpaper on.

We are lucky unlike in a house renovation ED is in charge of the whole work and does not need to rely on timely delivery/execution of external contractors, for most of the work.

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Like with a house... You wait for the electrician to finish his job and and move on to the restroom instead of putting wallpaper on.

We are lucky unlike in a house renovation ED is in charge of the whole work and does not need to rely on timely delivery/execution of external contractors, for most of the work.

 

Yeah, I get it, though I did have a fence built at the same time the interior painting was done.

Then came the carpet and tile folks. ;)

 

It was still frustrating.

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If you own a house, renovation never stops once you begin.

 

I like this analogy, it fits quite well !:thumbup:

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If you own a house, renovation never stops once you begin.

 

I like this analogy, it fits quite well !:thumbup:

 

Agree - but that still means that finishing one room at the time is the most efficient way. When all rooms are done -You can start over.

 

It´s ineffective to start on the bathroom, but then in the middle of it, jump to the bedroom just because, what happens there is more fun.

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Agree - but that still means that finishing one room at the time is the most efficient way. When all rooms are done -You can start over.

 

It´s ineffective to start on the bathroom, but then in the middle of it, jump to the bedroom just because, what happens there is more fun.

 

Henry Ford would never build a car this way.

 

All electrical in all rooms, then vapour barier in all rooms, drywall in all rooms etc. etc.

 

That is wholistically the best way to finish a complete project.

 

But, the problem is the contractors being ready on time each time. :)

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First load is always a decent amount of work, but if you tried it again, you would see it load much faster, also, do you have DCS on a SSD drive? makes a bit of difference as well.

 

You are right. Things got better now. I have been today as guest on 2nd seat in Gazelle very dynamic virtual air show training that is being prepared for September this year, and no stutters or freezes whatsoever. I shall move DCS to system drive SSD maybe end next week and report back.

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Agree - but that still means that finishing one room at the time is the most efficient way. When all rooms are done -You can start over.

 

It´s ineffective to start on the bathroom, but then in the middle of it, jump to the bedroom just because, what happens there is more fun.

The problem is, as the plumbing in the kitchen is done you have to shut the water, that means your bathroom and shower plus the guest toilet is out of order, as well, so you need a backup solution for the toilet in case the kitchen plumbing runs into issues. Or you need to add more work to prevent leakage in the kitchen in the middle of a three day work, to make the bathroom work while the kitchen is done.

Add electricity running through a central circuit board with one circuitbraker for multiple electrics, like light in the kitchen plus the fridge and hot water in the bathroom giving additional challenges...

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What I'm still most surprised about is that ED hasn't fixed the loading screen in this last beta->release patch (so the loading screen would stay there until the low fps are gone in the multiplayer lobbies what we currently suffer from). Would mean a longer loading screen but then as soon as we see the lobby we could instantly join any slot.

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SSD's make a ton of difference.

 

Also... you can get 128GB SSD's pretty cheap these days. Even the slow, extra cheap ones will be a great deal better than a platter drive.

 

A new 240GB SSD (mine is M.2) cost me $70 shipped). I had no choice, DCS 2.5 had to have it.. for me.... or else I would have had to shelve it,,, for online play. it is now working really good. Not great, but really good.

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I use this analogy all the time, but ED is renovating our house while we are living in it, we can either stay here and step over the occasional problem, or we can go stay in a hotel until its ready.

 

Very good analogy. I still stayed in the lower floor (1.5.8 ) for now because I just don‘t have the right dress (hardware) required for the house-warming party going on in the second floor (2.5).

But just today my new shoes (additional 8GB RAM) arrived which hopefully will mean I am no longer that much underdressed to have a look at the party upstairs. I understand a new house (or floor) is not perfect on day one, but hey, it‘s still my house community here so I certainly won‘t go to the hotel just because the 2nd floor is being fine-tuned. And still I have the 1st floor which was great for the last 8 years for me, it didn‘t became that bad just overnight.


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