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Old 06-13-2019, 12:42 AM   #31
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Thanks for the answers.
I think TLTeo is right: At least i had always considered RWR a must have for early cold war jets, but that's because DCS has so many more modern units (both air, land and sea), that you always pit those against them subconsciously...
Now that i think of it, i would really love to see DCS getting more fleshed out with early cold war units, so these early jets could feel at home...
It depends how early. If early to mid-late 50s, no rwr is ok

by early to mid 1960s time period alone you already have sam's like the long range SA2's, mid range SA3's and down low ZSU 23 Shilkas in operational service, which already makes RWR a necessary senor, and certainly nice to haves if you can also couple it with Chaff dispenser and ECM pods.
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Old 06-13-2019, 05:32 PM   #32
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An R-4 is definally the version I would prefer in DCS, it is an awesome turnfighter (pilots said it was way better than F-86E), could carry AS-20 air to ground missiles, it can be used as a bush plane, can carry AIM-9Bs (useless as F but anyways) and if you remove 2 pilons you get the italian version (R-1B).
It's more or less like an early A-4.

Y version is cool as well but is more outdated then the predecessor compared to the period of service (non radar, non countermeasures, non rwr in the 70s).
YAY MCLOS missles... Oh wait... We already have those in the viggen and everyone hates them!
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:09 PM   #33
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YAY MCLOS missles... Oh wait... We already have those in the viggen and everyone hates them!

Yea because you have better guided munitions available for itand the viggen is more modern aircraft from a later time period

In the absese of more sophisticated guided muntions the mclos type missiles dont seem like such a bad option.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:42 PM   #34
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fiat g-91 versatile easy to carry small in size.



FIAT g-91
capacity for extreme fast maneuvers at very low altitude
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:06 AM   #35
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YAY MCLOS missles... Oh wait... We already have those in the viggen and everyone hates them!
What? I love them they're so funny once you get kills with them
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Old 06-14-2019, 04:11 PM   #36
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YAY MCLOS missles... Oh wait... We already have those in the viggen and everyone hates them!
Ironically that's probably the same people who keep on trying to tell me that the Viggen in DCS was a 1970s plane.
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Ironically that's probably the same people who keep on trying to tell me that the Viggen in DCS was a 1970s plane.
because it basally is.....

The only real difference is that in the early 90s, Viggen was upgraded with a new off the shelf CPU ( no visible difference), and made compatible with newer RB15 missile, and those Bk90 glide bombs. Woopteedoo. So much different. Dont use those weapns and what you have is basically 70s-80s plane.


Its like saying the F14B is a 90s plane just because you can arm it with Lantirn. When you do it technically is, Take off lantirn and its can be 80s plane. ( the control panel also disappears).
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:54 PM   #38
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I'm not saying it can't stand in as similar to the early versions, just that it technically isn't and that very concept of 'close enough' makes people break out pitchforks for a lot of other modules, oddly.

In other news I found this - admittedly not very good, since I had to hurry - picture from a G.91 cockpit in my photo archive:
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