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Old 01-12-2018, 12:20 PM   #31
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Yeah they're pretty heavy, weighs about as much as three AIM-120s. Still nice to have the option though. Imagine a B-1R stuffed full of them. Airborne SAM site.
Well it seems as though the Chinese are pursuing a similar concept in their very KS172-esque VLRAAM. Ditto for the Russians with the R37.

Downside is that, as probad correctly pointed out, a 500-600kg missile is going to have fairly significant aerodynamic consequences for the launch platform as far as AAMs go. Not likely to be cheap either...
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:06 PM   #32
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Probably an anti-HVAA weapon, worth it in limited quantities.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:17 PM   #33
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Well it seems as though the Chinese are pursuing a similar concept in their very KS172-esque VLRAAM. Ditto for the Russians with the R37.

Downside is that, as probad correctly pointed out, a 500-600kg missile is going to have fairly significant aerodynamic consequences for the launch platform as far as AAMs go. Not likely to be cheap either...
Interesting, the Chinese VLRAAM is super long but the diameter is pretty much the same as an AIM-120 (at least it looks like it from the article I found), which would barely incur any aero penalty compared to something the shape of an AIM-54.
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Which makes it either a joke or a ramjet. But even a ramjet has range limits.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:47 PM   #35
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Which makes it either a joke or a ramjet. But even a ramjet has range limits.
If it's a ramjet it must have fold-out intakes because it looks like a pretty smooth cylinder in the photos I saw.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:48 PM   #36
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Pretty sure the diameter would be greater than an AIM120. No sign of air intakes on it from what I've seen either so I think it may just be a rocket. Agreed though GG, I imagine both VLRAAM and R37 would be directed at airborne ISR assets, tankers etc.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:00 PM   #37
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Turns out it's 13" or so in diameter, nothing like an AIM-120.
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Yikes. MUCH bigger. That's a monster missile.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:59 AM   #39
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:09 AM   #40
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God damn, that missile is fired so far away you could land the plane before it reaches you lol
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