Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Sale on EVGA 2080ti, I should be ashamed of my self but I'm not :) Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Interested in your thoughts on improvement in DCS over the 1080ti. I am tempted by the Strix but I can't bring myself to pay NZ$2,500 for a 15% improvement.. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Interested in your thoughts on improvement in DCS over the 1080ti. I am tempted by the Strix but I can't bring myself to pay NZ$2,500 for a 15% improvement.. Yeah totally, I intend to do a few tests, so if anyone wants to know a specific let me know. It wouldn't surprise me given how CPU bound DCS is if I only get 10% If I were you I would opt for a CPU upgrade, I think that would help you the most. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 :thumbup: Nice choice with EVGA! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 :thumbup: Nice choice with EVGA! Thanks, yea I wont buy any other brand gfx card. Especially if its used. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Current settings and performance flying downtown Dubi. (58-60fps) (looking straight) Edited July 19, 2019 by Delta59R Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Yeah totally, I intend to do a few tests, so if anyone wants to know a specific let me know. It wouldn't surprise me given how CPU bound DCS is if I only get 10% If I were you I would opt for a CPU upgrade, I think that would help you the most. I would have to disagree - my CPU is nowhere near fully utilised in DCS, whereas my GPU is fully maxed out at 40 fps in some high-density areas with my current settings. Generally sits around 75%. DCS still doesn't make full use of current CPU's - and the upgrade I can do without changing my mobo (and entire system from scratch - no thanks) is minimal, i7 7700K. The best upgrade I can do at the moment is a new GPU and possibly another 16GB of RAM. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 I would have to disagree - my CPU is nowhere near fully utilised in DCS, whereas my GPU is fully maxed out at 40 fps in some high-density areas with my current settings. Generally sits around 75%. DCS still doesn't make full use of current CPU's - and the upgrade I can do without changing my mobo (and entire system from scratch - no thanks) is minimal, i7 7700K. The best upgrade I can do at the moment is a new GPU and possibly another 16GB of RAM. Your GPU usage is at 100% and your CPU is normally around 75%? Interesting, post a screen shot. Do you have HT on or off with that 4c/8t 6700k? Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Well this is surprising to me, I dropped my 8700k down to 4.4ghz and saw no change. Actually a tad better and with a little less cpu usage. I'm going to test at 4.0ghz next.. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 WOW this is at 4.0ghz, no change if anything a tad better again! wut?.. I want to keep going till this gpu gets bottlenecked. 3.6ghz next.. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 Alright found the first noticeable bottleneck (with this test) at 3.6ghz Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Your GPU usage is at 100% and your CPU is normally around 75%? Interesting, post a screen shot. Do you have HT on or off with that 4c/8t 6700k? No - my GPU is 100% over busy built-up areas....CPU is always steady at about 25% My GPU is normally around 75% during normal flying. This is a shot from today - just updated my Bios and left everything on my CPU as stock settings. This is the AV8 Instant Action flight at Caucasus - which is always pretty heavy for me FPS-wise. Edited July 20, 2019 by VampireNZ Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 No - my GPU is 100% over busy built-up areas....CPU is always steady at about 25% My GPU is normally around 75% during normal flying. This is a shot from today - just updated my Bios and left everything on my CPU as stock settings. This is the AV8 Instant Action flight at Caucasus - which is always pretty heavy for me FPS-wise. Is it capped at 40fps? What's keeping the gpu from being at 100%? Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Is it capped at 40fps? What's keeping the gpu from being at 100%? Yes Rift S is either 40 or 80 fps. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yes Rift S is either 40 or 80 fps. Ahh, yeah I turned off motion reprojection for the tests. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Ahh, yeah I turned off motion reprojection for the tests. Yeah I have tried that with the Rift S - but even with ASW off it still sits at 40 fps regardless...something to do with the Rift S now, hopefully they change it. Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 More testing at 5ghz. What I notice now is although the peak fps is about the same when at 5ghz compared to 4.0 or 4.4, the FPS is more stable (higher average fps). And if you look at the GPU usage graph its smoother at 5ghz. Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Capped at 45FPS using "motionvector" in the MR driver settings Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 Using FRAPS I recorded the FPS for 60 seconds, trying to keep the flight path as close as possible each time flying Downtown Dubi, here were the results. 5.0ghz Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 3614, 60000, 56, 65, 60.233 4.4ghz Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 3636, 60000, 56, 65, 60.600 4.0ghz Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 3509, 60000, 54, 63, 58.483 Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta59R Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 This is interesting, I am about to update the bios on my MB so I loaded the "optimized defaults" then decided to test again. The CPU looks to be running at 4.3ghz and the ram is at 2133 c15. I think the ram speed created the bottleneck in this test. Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg 3230, 60000, 49, 58, 53.833 Meshify C w Noctua Fans, MSI Carbon Z790, 13900KS, 64gb 7200 Gskill, MSI 4090, MSI 240, Sam 1tb m2, Sam 512 m2, Seasonic 1000w, MSFF2 Stick + X56 Throttle, HP Reverb G2, Sony 83in A90J OLED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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