dok_rp Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hello guys, I have been having a terrible time using the ministick on the HOTAS Warthog due to its extreme sensitivity. The default configuration is far too slow and I have tried fiddling with it in all possible ways: increasing deazones, lowering saturations, adding all sorts of response curves, but in the end, I always end up with a slew function that is extremely slow or ridiculously fast and I always have to resort to using the keyboard for finer TGP and Shkval adjustments, since I always overshoot the target I'm supposed to designate. With the Blackshark and Su25T things get even worse because their sensors are even more sensitive. What I have had to do was to ignore the ministick altogether and simply map the TGP and Shkval slew commands to the mic button. It's amazing how much better it becomes. The precision you gain is incredible. However, I feel stupid for such having to use such a cheap workaround after having paid so much money on this HOTAS. The simple thing that makes the digital command so much better than the analog one is the fact that the latter has an embedded acceleration which the analog command lacks. When you click and hold the slew command on the keyboard, it gradually accelerates, making minor adjustments very easy while allowing you to cover large terrain distances by holding the command down. When using the microstick under the analog function, it becomes extremely sensitive and one would have to be extraordinarily gentle to achieve what the digital command allows. I also tried using TARGET, and mapping a keypress to the ministick, but even there the sensitivity is far greater than simply configuring a button to assume the slew function. Being able to reproduce the same acceleration function the button is submitted to would vastly improve the usability of the ministick of this expensive hotas system. Therefore, would it be possible to add an acceleration function to the analog microstick so it could actually be of use? Thanks a lot!!! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I know you said you played around with deadzones, etc. but just for reference here is how mine are set in the Axis Commands in game. Joy_X ............... Deadzone 5, Saturation_Y 60 Joy_Y ............... Deadzone 5, Saturation_Y 60 I find this works quite well. If it's too slow just adjust the saturation up to 70 etc... Hope that may help. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_rp Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks Sarge, but even with your configuration the TGP is still too fast. After doing some more testing using the ministick set up under TARGET with the digital keys, I've found that this configuration is almost perfect. It's not as good as setting a joystick button ingame to the TGP, but it's close enough. Problem is, I'm going to have to recreate profiles to the planes I had almost finished setting up within the game. No problem. At least I got that sorted out. Thanks again! :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayGlow Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 STAT MFD page, on the second page there's the throttle setting. There you can set slew rate. The higher the number, the slower it is. Page 264 of the manual. "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong...I'm not a big man" Chevy Chase, Fletch Lives 5800X3D - 64gb ram - RTX3080 - Windows 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_rp Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 STAT MFD page, on the second page there's the throttle setting. There you can set slew rate. The higher the number, the slower it is. Page 264 of the manual. I had tried that too, DayGlow. Thanks. It helps a little with the the A-10C, but the other aircrafts are left in the dark. The solution I found was to create a TARGET profile for all of them. I'm half way through, tough. Not as bad as I thought it would be. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I know you said you played around with deadzones, etc. but just for reference here is how mine are set in the Axis Commands in game. Joy_X ............... Deadzone 5, Saturation_Y 60 Joy_Y ............... Deadzone 5, Saturation_Y 60 I find this works quite well. If it's too slow just adjust the saturation up to 70 etc... Hope that may help. I haven't tried this out for A-10C yet, but I use 50% saturation _Y and it works great for FC3 F-15 and DCS BS. I need to add a small deadzone, I'll try 5% also. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The default settings for the Warthog, in the Plug-n-Play lua, are... Deadzone = 30 X Saturation = 100 Y Saturation = 15 ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dok_rp Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 The default settings for the Warthog, in the Plug-n-Play lua, are... Deadzone = 30 X Saturation = 100 Y Saturation = 15 Indeed these are the default values, but I find them very slow especially because the 15 points of saturation is max speed you will ever get and when you use the digital command you actually get a very nice acceleration which helps immensely when panning around the battlefield with the TGP or Shkval. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONHOO Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:STAT MFD page, on the second page there's the throttle setting. There you can set slew rate. The higher the number, the slower it is. Page 264 of the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Wow. Nice necropost lol Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 And since it's alive, ALIVE!, I might as well as add that in the Thurstmaster subthread of this forum, there is a the "yet another Warthog slew upgrade" thread. You can find an awesome replacement of the built-in mini-stick. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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