fitness88 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I'm trying to use my HOTAS mapped directly to the DCS controls. Mapping my X-52 Pro to modifiers and switches in controls is not allowing for my different mode selections to work discretely. What gets mapped to Mode 1 works when I'm in Mode 2... How do I setup my 3 modes and 2 shift states to work the same way it does using the Saitek Profile Editor? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesD Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 You can use modifiers but you will have make them for each aircraft. Under the controls tab just press add modifier. You can add multiple modifiers per command, ex. Joystick button 2 + throttle switch 12 = "Jettison stores" command. Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/06/01 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) This X-52 mode selection is seem be windows/games as DX button? If not, will no work as mode in DCS, unless you set then though Saitek software. You can set mode in DCS - called switch in controls, using DX button or keys for activate this. Edited November 22, 2017 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesD Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) I forgot a few caveat's modifier vs switch columns If modifier is mapped in the modifiers column to a toggle switch, all buttons without that modifier are disabled. So you would have to also map all common functions to each "mode/modifier. If modifier is mapped in the switch column all other buttons are available but the modifier will remain active until the modifier that is mapped the switch column is pressed again. The switch column essentially acts as a toggle modifier. It will remain active even if another modifier is pressed and can only become inactive when toggled off. In your case. you could use a 3 position toggle on your throttle, ex. LASTE switch, for each mode using the modifier not the switch column. PATH = Mode 1, ALT/HDG = Mode 2, Alt = Mode 3. Note: in this case mode 2 would be default without a modifier because the center position has no switch. Your shifted states could be the pinkey switch. Now you can add any combination of mode and pinkey to each DCS command. Miles Edited November 22, 2017 by MilesD Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/06/01 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Thank you both...I need a bit of time to go over what has been written here and I'll get back. I use shift states as modifiers and make each Mode a separate switch...is this correct? Edited November 22, 2017 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesD Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) It can be a bit confusing but onece you do a bit of experimenting it should be clear. There are many ways to do things. From from what I am understanding you want to do I would only use the "modifier" column in the modifier page for both your "shift state" and "modes" modifier. As stated the switch column acts as a toggled modifier. I would map your "shift states" modifier to a button that you have to hold down ex. pinkey switch. I would then map your "modes" modifier to a real 3 position toggle switch, ex. LASTE switch or the three position switch on the side of the throttle handle, that way you don't have to hold it down to use your "modes". Your "shift state" modifier ex. pinkey switch can now be used together with your "modes" modifier ex. LASTE 3 pos toggle switch. I don't know if that helps to clarify. edit.. Sorry I was assuming you have a Warthog throttle and stick. Edited November 22, 2017 by MilesD Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/06/01 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) I forgot a few caveat's modifier vs switch columns If modifier is mapped in the modifiers column to a toggle switch, all buttons without that modifier are disabled. So you would have to also map all common functions to each "mode/modifier. If modifier is mapped in the switch column all other buttons are available but the modifier will remain active until the modifier that is mapped the switch column is pressed again. The switch column essentially acts as a toggle modifier. It will remain active even if another modifier is pressed and can only become inactive when toggled off. In your case. you could use a 3 position toggle on your throttle, ex. LASTE switch, for each mode using the modifier not the switch column. PATH = Mode 1, ALT/HDG = Mode 2, Alt = Mode 3. Note: in this case mode 2 would be default without a modifier because the center position has no switch. Your shifted states could be the pinkey switch. Now you can add any combination of mode and pinkey to each DCS command. Miles I experienced this and could not figure out what was happening...thanks for the explanation. This too I experienced! I will have to re-think my mapping strategy including going back to the Saitek Profile Editor...thanks again. Edited November 23, 2017 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) One are talking about oranges (X-52 PRO) and other talking about apples (Warthog). :) Fitness88, You already had confirm if X-52 PRO mode selector work as DX button? Edited November 23, 2017 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 One are talking about oranges (X-52 PRO) and other talking about apples (Warthog). :) Fitness88, You already had confirm if X-52 PRO mode selector work as DX button? I checked out the Warthog but didn't like the problem with the joy-stick stiction issue. What exactly does DX button mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Open Windows Games Controller - Press Win key + R and type joy.cpl press enter. Select X-52 , click in properties and move this mode switch/selector, if any button highlight in screen they are DirectX buttons and could be used directly in DCSW (or other) game controls options. If the selector don't highlight any button in Game Controllers window, is not DirectX button and could be used only through Saitek software. Edited November 23, 2017 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Open Windows Games Controller - Press Win key + R and type joy.cpl press enter. Select X-52 , click in properties and move this mode switch/selector, if any button highlight in screen they are DirectX buttons and could be used directly in DCSW (or other) game controls options. If the selector don't highlight any button in Game Controllers window, is not DirectX button and could be used only through Saitek software. I use the X52 Pro Flight Controller Properties all the time to make adjustments, all the buttons on the X-52 Pro light up when I press them so yes they are all DirectX. Thanks for explaining. I still don't see the advantage to mapping directly to the DCS controls except in may be faster. Using the Saitek software allows for more flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 On the joy-stick of the X-52 Pro there are 3, 2 position toggle switches. Is there any game difference between them and the 1 position buttons, except for the fact the toggle switches allow for 2 commands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 For the game is just a button, don't matter if switch send this is ON-OFF, ON-OFF-ON, (MON)-OFF-(MON) etc, or just a momentary press button (like a keyboard key). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 For the game is just a button, don't matter if switch send this is ON-OFF, ON-OFF-ON, (MON)-OFF-(MON) etc, or just a momentary press button (like a keyboard key). Thanks...so it's all 1 command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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