US F/A-18E Shoots Down Syrian Su-22

It's very likely the Syrian pilot to have had no clue about the Super Hornet being around not to mention shooting

According to the BBC, the pilot was warned to leave before the Hornet fired.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40322666

oh, and

It is believed to be the first air-to-air kill of a manned aircraft by a US military jet since the Kosovo campaign in 1999.

A Syrian Su-22 flying in Syrian airspace probably wasn't expecting to be launched on by a country that that isn't formally engaged in hostilities with Syria, so even putting aside the 25 year generational difference in the aircraft, the Su-22 would have been a sitting duck...

Just in case you haven't seen or read the news about Syria for the last 6 years: There's a civil war going on in Syria since 2011 with a death toll estimated to be at least 400,000 killed in the revolt against the Assad regime that has been in power since November 1970 (not elected, but through violent coupe).

So to that end, a Syrian Su-22 flying in Syrian airspace has all the reasons to expect to be fired upon, first and foremost from his own people (Syrians of the various resistance affiliations) that he was most probably sent to bomb.

The way I see it is that the message is very clear from the USA: If your'e not there to bomb ISIS, expect to be shot down.

both pilots just trying to do their jobs. what would you have done as the syrian pilot? to obey american orders would be dereliction if not treason; you'd at least have a chance of surviving and maybe even hailed a hero if you chanced it with the missile.

According to the BBC, the pilot was warned to leave before the Hornet fired.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40322666

 

oh, and

The Pilot was Given an Updated RoE when the Aircraft Dropped Ordinance on our allied troops.

According to the BBC, the pilot was warned to leave before the Hornet fired.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40322666

oh, and

Attempts to warn the plane away using an emergency radio frequency failed, the US Central Command said.

From a technical standpoint, is it likely that the pilot can receive such a message if the radios are not set to the right frequency?

There are methods to make sure the person you are talking to is actually who he claims to be, even if you are not using encrypted radios.

F-15 Shot down another Drone today according to news ticker.

Did the Syrian pilot survive?

Did the Syrian pilot survive?

According to this report, yes.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201706201054782289-syria-soldiers-rescue-pilot/

I've read everything from he was saved to he was captured by the SDF.

There is alot of misinformation out there about the incident. Some even say the SU-22 didn't drop any of its bombs and it was a wanted escalation by the US.

Over all the typical internet creativity :doh: So far we know almost nothing

There is alot of misinformation out there about the incident.

Par for the course when you're not on a need to know basis and can only rely on press. ;)

you'd at least have a chance of surviving and maybe even hailed a hero if you chanced it with the missile.

Well I doubt even if a Syrian Su-22 managed to avoid a US 9X, that it would somehow escape the other Rhinos and or more missles bu whatever. It sucks to be that Syrian pilot but I dont feel bad for him, this is war.

Sorry mods if im skirting around the political edge

I have no problem with shooting down planes, as long the pilot survives that's all I care about. (even if he is Syrian its sad to see)

I'm seeing new reports of a second Iranian drone being shot down by another Mudhen. That brings the AA kill tally to 3 in the past two weeks.

What missile did Mudhen use last time?

What missile did Mudhen use last time?

I'm not sure...haven't seen anything specific. I'll try to find out.

Pakistan also shot down a Iranian drone

Oh boy............

Things are heating up.... I hope not too much :(

If those drones haven't been gunned down it must have been a helluva waste. BTW I wonder at what stage nowadays ROE's allow air-to-air gunnery? I mean in both a2a incidents in Syria (the Russian Su-24 and the recent one) rear aspect shot with a heater from a fair short range are rumored. Given the types (attacker and target) it doesn't look like too complicated to go gunzo.

http://theaviationgeekclub.com/breaking-case-wondering-u-s-navy-super-hornet-squadron-shot-syrian-su-22-fitter-find-answer/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=postplanner&utm_source=facebook.com

AIM9 Missed at .6nm and Pilot used AIM120

The pilot missed an AIM-9X at 0.6 miles from the target... then used a 120? That's just... wow! I need the Tacview file! :D

He missed a short range missile at 0.6 miles, and then hit the target using a medium range missile... lol

Im not really at home in all the military news stations out there, but is this a reliable source or would this count as just another estimated guess trying to look legit?

Very interest read SkateZilla...awesome work digging that up. :book: