imacken Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Is there any way of turning off the irritating zoom out that occurs in every module at the start of every mission? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Why ED ignoring the community... I don't understand? This annoying feature does not give any benefit. The solution in the future, in the settings of the special could be an option to turn off the annoying zoom. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Is there any way of turning off the irritating zoom out that occurs in every module at the start of every mission? Hey imacken, you should have started a poll on this, to really see how others feel by numbers. I vote ditch it, not needed. It doesn't bother me tho, I guess it's getting to you :) I would rather on a cold start have the pilot walk up and jump in automatic etc, ground hot start or air start, just get placed in the jet, no zoom back thinggy;) It must have been an idea of someone high up in the hierarchy, soooo, it might be hard for someone to let go....:music_whistling: Edited February 9, 2018 by David OC i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Is there any way of turning off the irritating zoom out that occurs in every module at the start of every mission? The way I deal with it is by having slow zoom assigned to my longitudinal TrackIR axis. Then the camera zooms out slowly, but then immediately flips back to "correct" FoV by itself. Judging from numerous posts on this subject throughout past years, I don't think there's other way to avoid it. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Haha! An another thread about this annoying thing, but I agree. :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell_rj Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 +1 It's been discussed before and this 'feature' annoys me, as well as many others it seems. This must surely be a relatively easy thing to change. A nice, easy quality of life fix that ED could do and make us happy. If it isn't easy, just let us know! PC specs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=199629 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Yes, kill it with fire - in 1.5.8 the zooming out caused my DCS to hang (like a stutter, but one lasting up to half a minute long)., and I had to wait for it to stop before my frames returned to normal. If I immediately starting using my assigned zoom keys I wouldn't experience any annoying hanging. The zooming out thing serves no purpose at all IMO apart from to annoyingly (after a while) delay start-up. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lixma 06 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=61701 will be tuned and optional 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMikeJuliet Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I haven't been on these forums for too long, but this is probably fifth or sixth thread about this. And yes, I want it gone too. I hope that 7-year old promise will hold now that 2.5 is out and closing stable status... though I fear not. Regards, MikeMikeJuliet DCS Finland | SF squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone71 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I remember when games came on cassette tapes and could take up to half hour to load (looking at you Gauntlet on the Atari 800XL), now we can't even wait a few seconds to press Enter? Windows 10 Home, Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4.6GHz, Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming (8GB VRAM) on 34" LG curved monitor @ 3440x1440, 32GB RAM, TrackIR 3 (with Vector Expansion), Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Combat Pedals, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 I remember when games came on cassette tapes and could take up to half hour to load (looking at you Gauntlet on the Atari 800XL), now we can't even wait a few seconds to press Enter? We had no choice with cassette loading times. We can easily have the choice to remove this irritation which means having to zoom back in after the auto zoom out occurs. It should default to the mid point of the zoom axis as set by the player for each aircraft. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallberries Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 If you hit zoom in the instant it starts....it stops. Hitting slow zoom in and then enter are just a part of my startup sequences :P Would be nice if it just died in a fire, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Not an issue for me, never has been. Doesn't bother me in the least. “I want it all, I want it my way, I want it now!” LOLOL Edited February 10, 2018 by MegOhm_SD Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangi Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 While I agree it should be an option to turn it off, I think I would miss it if it was removed. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajdary Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It should clearly be an option, it has no benefit for gameplay and no good reason for being there. Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Tempered Glass, Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero, Intel i7 7700K @ 4.8, Corsair HX 1000i, Nzxt Kraken 62, 32gb DDR4 3000Mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum, Nvme SSD Samsung 960 Evo 1Tb, Asus Strix OC 1080ti, Philips 43" 4K Monitor + 2 x Dell 24" U2414H, Warthog HOTAS, Track IR 5, Obutto R3volution, Buttkicker Gamer 2, MFG Crosswind pedals, Occulus Rift CV1, Windows 10 Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discwalker Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 +1 GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Integrator Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Why is this even in the game? There must be some reason someone made a conscious decision to add it. While I agree it should be an option to turn it off, I think I would miss it if it was removed. I kind of agree lol, it doesn't particularly bother me (although I find it a bit strange). If it were gone I would feel like *something* were missing, I would look back in fondness on the days I spent perplexed by this strange little quirk :P Oh DCS, you so crazy Edited February 14, 2018 by The Integrator Eagerly anticipating DCS: Space Shuttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Somewhere there is a horse begging for death. :) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Somewhere there is a horse begging for death. :) People are expressing their opinion. What's wrong with that? Maybe if the horse is flogged enough, then someone will take pity on it! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 People are expressing their opinion. What's wrong with that? Maybe if the horse is flogged enough, then someone will take pity on it! Since, after many years, ED has never even offered an explanation for it, I doubt anything will change. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Since, after many years, ED has never even offered an explanation for it, I doubt anything will change.Maybe it's the lynch pin of the entire game. Take it out and everything else breaks. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Since, after many years, ED has never even offered an explanation for it, I doubt anything will change. I'm sure you're right, but no harm in trying a little people power once in a while! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMikeJuliet Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Not an issue for me, never has been. Doesn't bother me in the least. “I want it all, I want it my way, I want it now!” LOLOL You can hardly talk about the "me me, now now" attitude, when the feature was said to be removed in time seven years ago, and people have been asking for this for a long time. And just because some people don't see it as an issue, many do. Be glad it doesn't bother you. Small things can drive you nuts... DCS Finland | SF squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You can hardly talk about the "me me, now now" attitude, when the feature was said to be removed in time seven years ago, and people have been asking for this for a long time. And just because some people don't see it as an issue, many do. Be glad it doesn't bother you. Small things can drive you nuts... Exactly Especially since the zooming results in a massive stutter for me, DCS stops for what feels like a considerable time, once it finishes and the zoom is how I desire DCS returns to having reasonable performance. Now I understand that it's my barely adequate system specifications that causes this issue, but it still does not need to be there - it serves no real purpose. If it's not an issue for people fine. But for others it can be irritating. If it's going to be a problem with it gone we can reach a mutual agreement - make it optional, therefore both sides are satisfied - the people that don't want it to have to have it, and the people that want it don't have to have it taken away from them - win win situation. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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