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question re; a mission (cant remember which).

in a Huey fly to WP1 (sakumi city) and clear it, after that a server message appears and indicates that the MI8 and UH-1H are tasked to Alpha.

does that mean we need to fly all the way to Maykop? thats a long flight.

can you clarify?

thanks for the server. great fun

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Hi guys, quick question. As I have become rather enamored with the Mi-8, are there any plans on incorporating more helos into the server lineup? I'd love to hop in and fly alongside you all, but I don't always want to hop into something with fixed wings.

 

So far my experiences on the server and on teamspeak have been top notch! I will give you all a shout out on my youtube.

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When doing a tracert I get lost at hop #12 with IP 96.43.134.174, just after Joe's DC IP.

 

This could be normal if the firewall protecting the server is configured to not allow ICMP Protocol with Ping, which would be a safe thing to do for certain reasons beyond this scope.

 

We just need to know if this is WANTED or MISCONFIGURED ehhh !?

 

Still it should allow to trace the route.

 

 

Need to see if I can actually join, haven't been on 104th for a few days so I dunno if I am affected or not.

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Pathping has same result, stop at hop #12 KFSW1.KCMODATACENTER.COM 96.43.134.174

 

 

Contact the Admins from that IP and ask if they can route to the destination IP, I bet they have an issue too.

 

This might and most likely will only affect those clients using that route, their can be endless more routes to the server that don't have an issue, this is Carrier- and Geo-bound.

 

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]

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C:\Users\Lars>tracert 208.94.240.34

 

Routenverfolgung zu 208.94.240.34 über maximal 30 Abschnitte

 

1 4 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]

2 11 ms 8 ms 8 ms 015-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net [77.244.96.15

]

3 10 ms 8 ms 8 ms 100.127.0.1

4 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms 082-208-075-109.ip-addr.inexio.net [109.75.208.8

2]

5 15 ms 12 ms 12 ms 209-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net [77.244.96.20

9]

6 15 ms 19 ms 23 ms 30gigabitethernet4-3.core1.fra1.he.net [80.81.19

2.172]

7 25 ms 22 ms 22 ms 100ge5-2.core1.par2.he.net [72.52.92.13]

8 99 ms 112 ms 99 ms 10ge15-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.213.93]

9 126 ms 123 ms 123 ms 10ge6-3.core1.mci3.he.net [184.105.80.78]

10 129 ms 124 ms 124 ms 10ge4-1.core1.mci2.he.net [184.105.213.37]

11 130 ms 128 ms 128 ms joe-s-data-center-llc.10gigabitethernet1-4.core1

.mci1.he.net [216.66.79.14]

12 129 ms 127 ms 127 ms KFSW1.KCMODATACENTER.COM [96.43.134.174]

13 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

14 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

15 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

16 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

17 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

18 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

19 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

20 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

21 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

22 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

23 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

24 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

25 * ^C

C:\Users\Lars>tracert 208.94.240.34:10308

Der Zielname 208.94.240.34:10308 konnte nicht aufgelöst werden.

 

C:\Users\Lars>ping 208.94.240.34

 

Ping wird ausgeführt für 208.94.240.34 mit 32 Bytes Daten:

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

 

Ping-Statistik für 208.94.240.34:

Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4

(100% Verlust),

 

C:\Users\Lars>trace 208.94.240.34:10308

Der Befehl "trace" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder

konnte nicht gefunden werden.

 

C:\Users\Lars>traceroute

Der Befehl "traceroute" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder

konnte nicht gefunden werden.

 

C:\Users\Lars>pathping 208.94.240.34:10308

Der Zielname 208.94.240.34:10308 konnte nicht aufgelöst werden.

 

C:\Users\Lars>pathping 208.94.240.34

 

Routenverfolgung zu 208.94.240.34 über maximal 30 Abschnitte

 

0 VM7.fritz.box [192.168.178.43]

1 fritz.box [192.168.178.1]

2 015-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net [77.244.96.15]

3 100.127.0.1

4 082-208-075-109.ip-addr.inexio.net [109.75.208.82]

5 209-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net [77.244.96.209]

6 30gigabitethernet4-3.core1.fra1.he.net [80.81.192.172]

7 100ge5-2.core1.par2.he.net [72.52.92.13]

8 10ge15-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.105.213.93]

9 10ge6-3.core1.mci3.he.net [184.105.80.78]

10 10ge4-1.core1.mci2.he.net [184.105.213.37]

11 joe-s-data-center-llc.10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.mci1.he.net [216.66.79.14]

 

12 KFSW1.KCMODATACENTER.COM [96.43.134.174]

13 * * *

Berechnung der Statistiken dauert ca. 300 Sekunden...

Quelle zum Abs. Knoten/Verbindung

Abs. Zeit Verl./Ges.= % Verl./Ges.= % Adresse

0 VM7.fritz.box [192.168.178.43]

0/ 100 = 0% |

1 1ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% fritz.box [192.168.178.1]

0/ 100 = 0% |

2 14ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 015-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net

[77.244.96.15]

0/ 100 = 0% |

3 18ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 100.127.0.1

0/ 100 = 0% |

4 15ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 082-208-075-109.ip-addr.inexio.net

[109.75.208.82]

0/ 100 = 0% |

5 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 209-096-244-077.ip-addr.inexio.net

[77.244.96.209]

0/ 100 = 0% |

6 29ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 30gigabitethernet4-3.core1.fra1.he

.net [80.81.192.172]

0/ 100 = 0% |

7 24ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 100ge5-2.core1.par2.he.net [72.52.

92.13]

0/ 100 = 0% |

8 112ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10ge15-1.core1.ash1.he.net [184.10

5.213.93]

0/ 100 = 0% |

9 167ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10ge6-3.core1.mci3.he.net [184.105

.80.78]

0/ 100 = 0% |

10 129ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10ge4-1.core1.mci2.he.net [184.105

.213.37]

0/ 100 = 0% |

11 125ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% joe-s-data-center-llc.10gigabiteth

ernet1-4.core1.mci1.he.net [216.66.79.14]

0/ 100 = 0% |

12 133ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% KFSW1.KCMODATACENTER.COM [96.43.13

4.174]

 

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.

 

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puzzles me, I can connect, just been there despite all those non-running commands.

 

Well, could be a feature of their firewall, you cannot scan their ports either, which I tried to do, but since they are ONLINE there must be some kind of smart monitoring and protection thing that cuts out any non-game relevant traffic aka ping and port scans...actually a good feature, just it makes it harder to troubleshoot connection problems.

 

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Yeah, I got the same results as you on the route trace and the ping request. My route timed out one hop after Joe's data center, so practically identical results. What's strange is that you can connect without problem, while I cannot even see the server.

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Let me guess this straight, BitMaster. You can't see the server on the master list?

 

EDIT: Can you guys with issues PM me here or the 104th with your IP address or at least with your IP range?


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He can see the server in the list. But there are connection proplems. > The mission is not loading and you find yourself at the Desktop or serverlist menu.

 

I have sometimes also proplems.

 

1 - Connect to server

2 - Loading screen

3 - Connection lost

 

This also happens when iam on the server for a while (20-30 minutes).

The strange thing is, when i get disconnected i can not join the server again for hours, sometimes days.

 

Last week i have thought i did get a BAN :)

 

Edit: For me its a 104th only Proplem. No Proplems on other servers. :bored:

 

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Anyone having issues joining our server should get on our teamspeak server and join the Help Desk channel and someone will be along to help get the problem sorted out.

If no one joins within an hour, poke a member asking for help.

 

This is the fastest way we can help you.

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Are there any difference in skins Blue versus Red side to make visual IFF easier?

If not, would that be something you would consider? Agressor livery for F15 on red. Neutral colors su-27 on blue, for example.

 

Sorry if this is in effect, just have'nt flown as much to notice.

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The Red F-15s are Israeli so they are different skins to the US F-15s on Blue. Their scheme is a lighter shade of grey than the Blue Eagles, however its not immediately noticeable.

 

Sadly there is only one skin available for the Red Israeli F-15s so its not possible to set them up in aggresor skins.

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One of the best servers, but also very frustrating when you cannot IFF because all aircraft are available for each side.

 

After being shot down continuously by people on my side as they mistook me for being a bandit I haven't played on the server since. And yes I use your teamspeak but most don't.

 

If it was Russian aircraft on Red vs Western Aircraft on Blue, it would solve this problem and be much more realistic.

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Hey IFF is done via radar, if some plane without radar shoot's you down without IFF it's not your fault but his. (and you can report to admins if it happens frequently)

 

Russian vs American planes sucks in DCS (modern) and not many would want to fly such a mission.

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...if some plane without radar shoot's you down without IFF it's not your fault but his.

 

But is it really their fault? If both sides have access to the same aircraft, it makes IFF next to impossible for aircraft that have no radar.

 

Why does F-15 vs Su-27 suck?

 

Also Blue have A-10A/C and Red have Su-25/T

 

Huey vs Mi-8, Sabre vs Mig.

 

The actual missions are fantastic, just the plane sets seem to be more of a sandbox selection and now we have problems with teamkills because you have both sides flying the same aircraft and no AWACS to help.

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One of the best servers, but also very frustrating when you cannot IFF because all aircraft are available for each side.

 

After being shot down continuously by people on my side as they mistook me for being a bandit I haven't played on the server since. And yes I use your teamspeak but most don't.

 

If it was Russian aircraft on Red vs Western Aircraft on Blue, it would solve this problem and be much more realistic.

 

 

Very few people get in visual range before firing missiles in the modern aircraft...radar's handle the IFF process for most, not their visual checking. Skins wouldn't help people with TK's much, IMO...if they are new enough to not know how to IFF properly with their radars, I highly doubt they are getting WVR and zooming in enough to visually check you out.

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It will be an balancing issue, lot's of people fly exclusively one plane. If you don't have a Radar and are not 100% sure somebody is an enemy - you don't shoot! Simple as that. In the same vein, a Blue F-15C, locking & following an Blue A-10C can't whine if that poor dude plants 4 Aim-9's into him.

 

I repeat, Teamkills are 90% people being dumb, the other 10% is a Fox 3 / 2 tracking the wrong guy. :)

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If you don't have a Radar and are not 100% sure somebody is an enemy - you don't shoot! Simple as that.

 

 

And then you get shot down repeatedly because you are always unsure if you're going to shoot down a team mate. There isn't even any use to bring AA missiles on the Su-25 and A-10 for this reason because you can never use them from fear of shooting a friendly.

 

I have been within visual range of enemy fighters in the A-10 and Su-25 and have had no idea if I should shoot or not, and then get killed. At least if I can I.D the aircraft type I will know if its friend or foe. This does not work as both sides are flying the same aircraft with no AWACS support to tell you whats up.

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Hey IFF is done via radar, if some plane without radar shoot's you down without IFF it's not your fault but his. (and you can report to admins if it happens frequently)

 

 

So Far, lots of people are flying with ECM on.

As far as I go for classification - (su27)

 

If i work with radar, I use his IFF to PID a target.

If a jammed contact is going toward the ennemi airfield, I assume it is either a friendly or a retreating ennemi, so i don't engage.

If a radiating jammed contact is going toward my airspace, I send the contact position on teamchat and request for identification on teamchat. If no answer, I shot.

If a non-radiating jammed contact is going toward my airspace, I can't really ask for ID so I try to VID before shooting.

 

If i'm on a EOS offensive, SA is usually enough for a classification, yet I don't shoot until i get VID. Usually, a plane with racks full and AB'ing toward my base is rarely an allied :D

 

When i get locked by unknown, i say locked on chat. If no answer I pre-emptively return fire.

 

Those rules keeps me alive, and I have rarely teamkills. When those happen, I really don't fell guilty at all, yet I apologize politely and try to figure out how me and target can avoid that next time.

But most of my teamkills happen on mig-21bis, which IFF doesn't work 100% of the time, on on AI flights which aren't answering my calls.

 

The 104th is fun but i prefer RED vs BLUE planes, not mixup of F15s everywhere. Usually, F15's fly blue and sukkhoi fly red so i don't mind but sometime i go fly somewhere else if it's too mixed.

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It will be an balancing issue, lot's of people fly exclusively one plane.

 

I would say a lot of people fly the F-15 and a lot fly the Su-27. The Mig-21 is more tricky as there is no blue counterpart at the moment and could cause the teams to become unbalanced.

 

However if I saw lots of red players and small amount of blue, I would jump into a F-15 to even the odds. A lot of people will self balance a server if they see it one sided.

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