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MiG-21bis unrealistic RSBN Systems !!


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Everything is fixed with the following:

 

1. MiG-21bis adopts RSBN system according to terrain like L-39.

2. Tactical deploy RSBN systems are added as mission objects.

3. MiG-21bis adopts ARK navigation according to 9 frequencies only per real airplane.

4. MiG-21bis adopts changing of ARK radio presets while on the ground via the kneeboard or some other system.

 

After that there are no problems.

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Everything is fixed with the following:

 

1. MiG-21bis adopts RSBN system according to terrain like L-39.

2. Tactical deploy RSBN systems are added as mission objects.

3. MiG-21bis adopts ARK navigation according to 9 frequencies only per real airplane.

4. MiG-21bis adopts changing of ARK radio presets while on the ground via the kneeboard or some other system.

 

After that there are no problems.

 

 

 

+1

 

 

5. MiG-21bis has an auto load of local map radio frequenties with a new kneeboard systems

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According to one source I found, the L-39 stations are not realistic at all and the MiG-21 list actually gets it closer. There should be stations at Anapa Taganrog, Krasnodar, Rostov on Don, Sochi, Maykop Khanskaya, Min-Vody, Vladikavkaz, Grozny, Tbilisi, Kutaisi, Batumi, Sukhumi, Sewastopol, Simferopol. (I know some of them are not on the populated part, but still in range.

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I can forward your suggestion mate, but I personally would recommend you to put it also into our Mantis: https://leatherneck-sim.mantishub.io/my_view_page.php

That way Dolphin will notice it faster.

 

I wouldn't bother, I think this bug tracker is not used anymore.

Or at least that's the only explanation I find for tickets I had opened in 2016, that included a patch to solve the problem, and that have been dormant ever since (except one that was forcibly deleted from the database).

 

So much for trying to help them fix simple but yet very annoying bugs, thanks guys.

 

 

The one ticket that was fixed though (short period of activity when Leatherneck split), implemented RSBN stations in Nevada map. It was also an awkward situation since there is no known RSBN station over there, but the MiG-21 needed a way to navigate.

 

These ideas would sure help (and the 3rd one which is adding realism, of course):

1. MiG-21bis adopts RSBN system according to terrain like L-39.

2. Tactical deploy RSBN systems are added as mission objects.

 

A unique, DCS-standard way to handle those mobile stations across all aircraft would be less confusing. If we have a DCS world platform, it's to avoid each aircraft to have its own way of implementing common feature (that's why I'm often insisting on fixing those cockpit switches incoherencies, which invariably fall in deaf ears). Item 2 would also make for interesting missions!

 

4. MiG-21bis adopts changing of ARK radio presets while on the ground via the kneeboard or some other system.

 

For all aircraft with ground settings, a way to review and change those settings before taking off would be nice too. In most of the cases, this is done in the ME, but it's hardly convenient. The kneeboard has been used a few times, by rasbam and Belsimtek, as long as it can only be changed on the ground, it's a good workaround.

 

So +1 too. :)

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Flying the MiG-21 is so hard, the fictional RSBN stations are good for balance out that.

 

Balance is never ever to be any concern in a flight sim.

 

But as I have pointed out and was ignored in that, the DCS RSBNs are not at all realistic and the MiG-21 stations are actually closer to reality although on some airports too many.

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Balance is never ever to be any concern in a flight sim.

 

But as I have pointed out and was ignored in that, the DCS RSBNs are not at all realistic and the MiG-21 stations are actually closer to reality although on some airports too many.

 

 

 

 

 

1) RSBN should not be placed in the same place as the TACAN (like in NEVADA map) because it is a different and incompatible system!

They should have their own 3d model and be placed with more realistic

 

 

 

2) All radionavigation systems must be indicated on the "F10" DCS MAP because it is essential for "radial navigation" !

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1) RSBN should not be placed in the same place as the TACAN (like in NEVADA map) because it is a different and incompatible system!

They should have their own 3d model and be placed with more realistic...

The most realistic, then, would be not to have them available on the Nevada map. Don't know about the Persian Gulf. Never bothered to worry abouteither.

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The most realistic, then, would be not to have them available on the Nevada map. Don't know about the Persian Gulf. Never bothered to worry abouteither.

 

 

 

+1 of cause but e need an auto load of local map radio frequenties with a new kneeboard systems. So we can use tower nav assit..

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New to the mig-21 but I'm ok as It Is now. Yes maybe fictional numbers of channels could be changed, but otherwise only 4 stations in caucasus as with l-39 (which I own) are a bit few (and a lot of people asks for more stations on l-39 subforum). Not really an issue with f-10 map: I seldom use It and I have a custom kneeboard page for l-39 too, easy to add a few Pages under saved games also for mig-21.

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that RSBN station should be available in mission editor to be placed where wanted. It is made mobile for an reason, and for an reason it ain't moved in many places. But if there would be a war, you would utilize the possibility to use those in many ways. As well attack to them in many ways.

 

And in military operations RSBN station doesn't need to be printed on the map.... It can be written and marked on it at every mission briefing. The map department is one of the most important ones in military, they update maps based reports, they reprint them to be shared and updated as well.

 

If one wants to disable enemy capability perform any aviation with those radio navigation systems, they would destroy them. They are first ones to be bombed, blowed up by special forces as their location is known. And now you magically halted enemy capability operate in bad weather by any other means than using compass and clock.

 

The RSBN aint like a BullsEye that location is unknown to enemy, and that is changed periodically to be sure, but you can set those up as wanted and needed quickly.

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