carss Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 So after the M2K, which of the next projects will be the first to emerge next? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoetic6 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I hope it's the Tucano! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Harrier please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Tucano and then harrier is RAZBAMs lineup atm. However with addition of new add on devs working on the MiG19p we may see it in between or after the harrier. The MiG23MLA was turned down by ED because someone else has it on their list already or ED is already working on it. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk 1 Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) The MiG23MLA was turned down by ED because someone else has it on their list already or ED is already working on it. or how about just saying for unknown reasons because we literally dont know what's so wrong about admitting that? you can't control how much info ed releases but you can make the choice to not be a rumormongering demagogue Edited December 20, 2016 by probad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Well that or they can't get a license agreement. Or they just don't want it. Why so snappy? We're focused on what's next from razbam not my personal thoughts on their module lineup. Anyways...... so tucano and harrier olare officially on their to do list with the attachment of the 19P. They are also doing a Mirage 3 CJ? I think is the correct variant they're doing? Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) A quick bit of seaching would show this thread is redundant, as Razbam have already shared what their plan is (Harrier, Q1 2017). Obviously plans can change so it's not concrete, but it's a good bet. Edited December 20, 2016 by Buzzles Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) So help me understand this. If an aircraft is on someones list, but they have not even started it, no one else can make it? What kind of crap is that? I respect all third party devs, but lets be real here, look how long it takes to create a solid module. If someone on the RAZ team has already started one, why not let them continue. Does not seem very fair to the community or othre devs if they have the talent, time, and resources to complete the project first. I would like everyones input on this to make sure I am not over reacting here. I got super fired up when I saw those images. Always wanted to fly the 23 since Janes ATF and US Navy Fighters. You just shot down my hopes for a name on a future aircraft list vs a solid company that already has one started. Who has it on their list? Robert you're literally panicking over unsubstantiated claims, calm the heck down. Well that or they can't get a license agreement. Or they just don't want it. Why so snappy? because there's already enough misinformation on these forums already, so let's please not add any more to it. Edited December 20, 2016 by probad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Well that or they can't get a license agreement. Or they just don't want it. Why so snappy? We're focused on what's next from razbam not my personal thoughts on their module lineup. Anyways...... so tucano and harrier olare officially on their to do list with the attachment of the 19P. They are also doing a Mirage 3 CJ? I think is the correct variant they're doing? Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk The reason why you're getting a strong pushback from implying that "Someone else is working on it" when we absolutly do not know whether or not that is true, is because if you say it enough times, eventually people start thinking that. And then if you ask them for proof, they'll link back to a whole bunch of folks saying that's the case, when at the very heart of it, it was one person projecting their own desires onto a statement that did not confirm or deny anything. In circumstances like these, it's important to be clear and use the proper language to prevent backlash on the third party developers if "what everybody knows" turns out to be false. @Clark As to calling "dibs". I have explicitly asked this of both VEAO and LN and Sithspawn in the past and all have stated in no uncertain terms, there is no "Dibs" system in place for DCS, and that multiple people could theoretically work on the same module. If this has changed, it's a change that's been made within the last two years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frixon28 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I'm thinking the Harrier and than the Tucano. Just because there is much more excitement for the Harrier than the Tucano. 2017 should be a very US-Aircraft filled year. Harrier,Tomcat,Hornet,P40... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil 505 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) @Tirak Thanks for the info. That is what I wanted to know. Probably should have waited to see someone post that information, however, this thread did not really catch like a wild fire. Good to know more than one dev group can work on the same project. Previous post deleted so there is no misinterpritation of my respect to ED and the third party DEVS. Regards Robert Edited December 20, 2016 by robert.clark251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 A quick bit of seaching would show this thread is redundant, as Razbam have already shared what their plan is (Harrier, Q1 2017). Obviously plans can change so it's not concrete, but it's a good bet. Q1 release...wow i didnt realise it was that soon :) Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If I had a vote, which I realize I don't, I'd vote for the A-7 next :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler111 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Av-8B Night Attack Harrier II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler111 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If I had a vote, which I realize I don't, I'd vote for the A-7 next :pilotfly: We already have this as a project, and there is a model ready for this, sure, it is based in the FSX (and then P3D) version, but with way more enhancements and a more accurate cockpit, since this is being made by me (and the main crew) there are some other stuff that needs my attention prior to this, like the AV-8B which is being developed by the main crew and me (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler111 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Q1 release...wow i didnt realise it was that soon :) Not a full release, same stuff as the M 2000C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Not a full release, same stuff as the M 2000C still lol i can hover it hehehe:) Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzanita Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 What ever happened to the Tucano? We had some very nice pictures of the cockpit and model shown to us and then all of a sudden it disappeared of the radar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 What ever happened to the Tucano? We had some very nice pictures of the cockpit and model shown to us and then all of a sudden it disappeared of the radar? It will be RAZBAM's next released module. But because it's just a Tucano, there's a large number of us who have no interest in discussing it since the Harrier was announced to be coming out shortly after the Tucano. Besides, no point in really releasing much info now with the current Spitfire release and LN's Viggen Promotional push. There will likely be an end of year update, but for now, status quo, nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Thanks for the reply Prowler. I will wait patiently while I fly your M2000C and AV-8B! :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostlyHarmless Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 It will be RAZBAM's next released module. But because it's just a Tucano, there's a large number of us who have no interest in discussing it since the Harrier was announced to be coming out shortly after the Tucano. Besides, no point in really releasing much info now with the current Spitfire release and LN's Viggen Promotional push. There will likely be an end of year update, but for now, status quo, nothing to see here. Unless I totally missed something, Ron said harrier 5 posts above yours. The last word he gave on the Tucano was that it was still being worked on. I'm probably in the minority but, I'm far more interested in a turbo prop modeled to DCS quality than another jet. Granted the complexities with modeling the Harrier's vertical thrust has me interested just from the pure technical side. That alone is enough for me to preorder it, tho I do suspect that many of us will experience some humiliation in trying to master vertical take offs and landings. The technical complexity of modeling in a turboprop with beta and reverse is something that I think is more difficult than the jets in DCS and a big reason I'd like to see RAZBAM pull it off to encourage other developers to try aircraft outside of pure combat models. Flying turboprops for a living it would be nice to do things that I can't ordinarily do with passengers in the back. Also because they permanently removed the gun systems from my aircraft during a refit last year... :cry_2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Unless I totally missed something, Ron said harrier 5 posts above yours. The last word he gave on the Tucano was that it was still being worked on. I'm not willing to make the leap of logic required to interpret Prowler's response as an assurance that the Harrier will be coming before the Tucano. Stated roadmap has been, and still is; Tucano first, Harrier second. Until Prowler explicitly comes out and says "We're releasing the Harrier before the Tucano", i'm not going to put words in his mouth. I'm probably in the minority but, I'm far more interested in a turbo prop modeled to DCS quality than another jet. Granted the complexities with modeling the Harrier's vertical thrust has me interested just from the pure technical side. That alone is enough for me to preorder it, tho I do suspect that many of us will experience some humiliation in trying to master vertical take offs and landings. I'm afraid I can't share your interest. yet another underpowered trainer equivalent is the last thing we need. The Harrier is faster, more capable, hauls more weapons of greater variety and has more numerous and interesting systems. The technical complexity of modeling in a turboprop with beta and reverse is something that I think is more difficult than the jets in DCS and a big reason I'd like to see RAZBAM pull it off to encourage other developers to try aircraft outside of pure combat models. Flying turboprops for a living it would be nice to do things that I can't ordinarily do with passengers in the back. Also because they permanently removed the gun systems from my aircraft during a refit last year... :cry_2: I'm actively against the idea of encouraging civilian aircraft in DCS. There are several full fidelity flight simulators for civilian traffic. Without even mentioning their vast superiority in handling the civilian side of things, the military sim market is a very small niche that I would prefer see grow, rather than strangled out by yet more piper cubs, and yet another Boeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostlyHarmless Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm actively against the idea of encouraging civilian aircraft in DCS. There are several full fidelity flight simulators for civilian traffic. Without even mentioning their vast superiority in handling the civilian side of things, the military sim market is a very small niche that I would prefer see grow, rather than strangled out by yet more piper cubs, and yet another Boeing. who said anything about civilian aircraft? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert31178 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Perfect. It's just perfect that a guy named "Mostly Harmless" would post a plane that is more or less mostly harmless. Man you can't write material this good...thanks for the laugh this afternoon MH!!! ~S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Well if we're going to walk the civ/mil line with "trainers" Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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