OverStratos Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) Руль поворота у вас без триммера. Тщательней надо. Nice model Araks! Is that the one that was made for War Thunder? Sorry, didn´t understand well, can you try to explain better? I can get it´s something about the front gear, but then I don´t know. Edit: If it is rudder trimmer related, the MiG-19P do not have one, it was a MiG-19S feature and also installed on some MiG-19PMs. Edited September 12, 2018 by OverStratos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araks Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Look here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 if only. Oh my sweet ******!!! Is that doable for our MiG-19? Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Oh my sweet ******!!! Is that doable for our MiG-19? Look at the previous page: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3623835&postcount=146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Look at the previous page: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3623835&postcount=146 Must've overlooked it. Thanks for the reply. Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The RP-5 Izumrud radar is an update of the RP-1, installed in the first serial aircraft. It has a detection range of up to 12 Km (6.5 nm) for bomber sized contact and 9 Km (4.8 nm) for a fighter sized one. Interestingly enough it had two antennas: one for searching and one for tracking, making it probably the first radar to have Track-While-Scan (TWS) capability. It can autolock at ranges from 2 to 4 Km (1 to 2.2 nm) and provide targeting information to the pilot with the help of the AR-18-8 gunsight. Like all 1st generation radars, it was prone to ground cluttering, which limited its use to altitude above 2000 m (6,600 ft) above the ground. Its best operational altitudes are above 3600m (11,800 ft) AGL. The search antenna can track up to 10 contacts, while the tracking one is permanently set in STT (Single Target Track). The visible cone belongs to the tracking antenna. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 But you can still lock up targets manually, right? Or do you just point the aircraft in the direction of the bandit and the STT does that for you? Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaal Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 This is a great thread, very interesting. I see that planes like this are designed with night/low visibility interception of bombers in mind. So I can imagine a scenario where one side might send a flight of B52s to bomb a target, and use low visibility to make interception more difficult. In return, the other side would send up a flight of Mig-19s with radar to intercept. How might the bombers be protected once discovered? Would they be protected by fighters that would also need to be equipped with Radar? Would bombers be sitting ducks once discovered? I could imagine a Radar-equipped Mig-19 locking and destroying an incoming bomber, but I can't imagine fighters from this age dogfighting each other at night. Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, Kempston joystick Interface, Alba Cassette Recorder, Quickshot II Turbo Joystick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 How might the bombers be protected once discovered? Would they be protected by fighters that would also need to be equipped with Radar? Would bombers be sitting ducks once discovered? I could imagine a Radar-equipped Mig-19 locking and destroying an incoming bomber, but I can't imagine fighters from this age dogfighting each other at night. When you ask this question, I guess you are talking about bombers and escort of the 60s/70s right? The Migs will not be detected because the radars of that time was not able to detect a interception of this kind. The radar of the Migs will be switch on in the last moment of the interception because they have been guided by a GCI. The Migs will run away after get out of ammo. In a good organized interception that can take just seconds. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaal Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Thanks, I was thinking about that general time period - maybe the 50s-60s. I was wondering more about how the bombers could be protected. As you point out, the Mig-19 is relatively small and hard to detect. If you're planning a mission for the bombers, what could you do to protect them from interceptors in low visibility settings? I can't think of anything that could stop the bombers from being attacked by Radar-carrying Mig-19s. Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, Kempston joystick Interface, Alba Cassette Recorder, Quickshot II Turbo Joystick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Radar controlled guns in their tails :-) Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) If you're planning a mission for the bombers, what could you do to protect them from interceptors in low visibility settings? I can't think of anything that could stop the bombers from being attacked by Radar-carrying Mig-19s. Very little options for this kind of interception. They will climb right below the bombers and escort and the interception is organized with several flights groups of 2 or more units every group from different incoming direction and one after other with seconds between climb. Edited September 14, 2018 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverStratos Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 Look here What you´re showing are the latest production airframes which used the MiG-19PM fuselage, which as the PM, had the rudder trimmer added. First and mid life production variants didn´t had the trimmer in the rudder, and happen to be the ones that I have access to. Radio, radio-altimeter, radar and other avionics updates were performed to several MiG-19P aircraft of different series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) Thanks, I was thinking about that general time period - maybe the 50s-60s. I was wondering more about how the bombers could be protected. As you point out, the Mig-19 is relatively small and hard to detect. If you're planning a mission for the bombers, what could you do to protect them from interceptors in low visibility settings? I can't think of anything that could stop the bombers from being attacked by Radar-carrying Mig-19s. B-36 and B-52s have endurance beyond any protective fighter cover can provide. That is why in the 1950s the USAF experimented with parasitic aircraft being carried by the bombers. In reality, the only defensive measure they had was to fly higher and faster than any fighter could. That is why it was top priority for the USSR to have high altitude interceptors. This is one of the reasons why the USAF aggressively probed the USSR air defenses, they were looking for holes in the radar network. Allegedly they found large holes over the Arctic circle that allowed SAC bomber to penetrate soviet airspace without being detected. The holes were not fully patched until the 1980s, but by that time the F-117 appeared and that changed the whole game. Edited September 14, 2018 by Zeus67 "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverStratos Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 If you're planning a mission for the bombers, what could you do to protect them from interceptors in low visibility settings? I can't think of anything that could stop the bombers from being attacked by Radar-carrying Mig-19s. First, ECM, it was used by B-47s and 52s from the late 50s onward. It will fill the radar screen with false targets and noise and made the bomber hard to lock. In the MiG-19P radar control panel there is a switch which is labeled "Jamming". It will reduce the jamming to a thin line, giving bearing to the bomber, kind of a HOJ mode. Second, Radar controlled guns in their tails :-) They are very dangerous, it will depend on your attack profile and tactics to avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araks Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 What you´re showing are the latest production airframes which used the MiG-19PM fuselage, which as the PM, had the rudder trimmer added. First and mid life production variants didn´t had the trimmer in the rudder, and happen to be the ones that I have access to. Radio, radio-altimeter, radar and other avionics updates were performed to several MiG-19P aircraft of different series. That's a good point. It seems You are right. Maybe I'm coming around to your way of thinking:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpenwolf Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Any chance you guys could release the manual so we could start learning about the bird? EDIT: ... or at least the pages containing general information/specification/history of the plane. Edited September 17, 2018 by Alpenwolf Cold War 1947 - 1991 Discord Helicopters Tournaments Combined Arms Tournaments You can help me with keeping up the server via PayPal donations: hokumyounis@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akatsuki Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I doubt it’s ready but yes that would be great. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Nice pic! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Found this video while searching for some MiG-19 info. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 will be great the developers notice the big light of the side cannons when fire (00:39min). I hope they can simulate this awesome effect, the cockpit must be lighted as hell :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Will we get "exotic skins" like this Egyptian one? Or the Pakistani beautiful scheme on their F-6's... I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 just in case... this is the camera fairing of Mig-17 http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/KOMZ_S-13 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 RP-5 Izumrud radar test. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus67 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Search and Tracking antennas are both working. The tracking antenna has locked onto the bomber and feeding range info to the gunsight. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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