J3ST3R Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hi all, so I installed my new GTX 1080Ti and have been testing in dcs. There has been an improvement fps wise compared to my old card, a GTX 970. However, I'm only really averaging about 50-60 fps and when I got into the spirit cockpit, fps dropped to 14. All my settings at pretty much on max. My setup is as follows..... i7 4790k @ 4.0ghz Asus z97 pro 16 gbs corsair vengeance 2400mhz GTX 1080Ti Dcs installed on Samsung 850evo Surely I should be seeing much higher fps?? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=DECOY= Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 hi a couple of things buddy. which version of dcs? do you have v sync on ? and did you remove old driver for the old card mate :) I have the same setup as you and I get well over 60fps in cockpit Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 hi a couple of things buddy. which version of dcs? do you have v sync on ? and did you remove old driver for the old card mate :) I have the same setup as you and I get well over 60fps in cockpit That was in 1.5. It's running at 1920x1080 on a 60hz Sony tv with vsync off. I'll check which drivers are installed but I know when I booted up with the new gpu 1st time it installed new drivers automatically. INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 That was in 1.5. It's running at 1920x1080 on a 60hz Sony tv with vsync off. I'll check which drivers are installed but I know when I booted up with the new gpu 1st time it installed new drivers automatically. Any drivers installed automatically were installed by Windows. Get the latest drivers from Nvidia instead. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It is a good idea to use some kind of sweeper software to get rid of old driver files. It is done from the Safe Mode to get them all out. Something is not right. I get near three digit performance in 1.5 and my system is four years old. Triple monitor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 When you start the installation, in the installation options, select "Custom(Advanced)" and go on. In the new window, under the list of installation components, check "Perform a clean installation" Sample: ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog-IC Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hi all, so I installed my new GTX 1080Ti and have been testing in dcs. There has been an improvement fps wise compared to my old card, a GTX 970. However, I'm only really averaging about 50-60 fps and when I got into the spirit cockpit, fps dropped to 14. All my settings at pretty much on max. Surely I should be seeing much higher fps?? Have a look at this thread and my comments in Message 22: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=186370 I have just personally done all of what is listed in my message and my frame rates have never been better, with zero stutter. Your mileage may vary. Regards, Ian. Asus p877v-pro, Intel I7 3770k 4.2ghz, 32gb Ripjaw X ram, Nvidia RTX-2070 Super, Samsung 32" TV, Saitek x52 pro Joystick and Combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5, Win8.1 x64 with SSD and SSHD protected by (Avast AV). DCS Tech Support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 So I just used ddu (display driver uninstall) and now reinstalling new dru. Can someone recommends what is the best driver for the 1080ti. Ie if there is a more stable version than the lastest? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Are you still on Win 7 or have you updated to Win10? In case of Win10 Creator Edition, you can't choose: only the 381.78HF is suitable ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Are you still on Win 7 or have you updated to Win10? In case of Win10 Creator Edition, you can't choose: only the 381.78HF is suitable Still on win7. Just installed 381.78 to see if I have any improvement. INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 When you start the installation, in the installation options, select "Custom(Advanced)" and go on. In the new window, under the list of installation components, check "Perform a clean installation" Sample: Is doing it your way a different cleaning method than using express? The Express way goes through a cleaning process. I see you just install the driver. Is that all I need to install? I get a long list of Nvidia programs. Are they bogging down my install? Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Express option doesn't clean the registry, only uninstall the driver and install new one in the system. With custom, every nvidia registy entry will be cleaned. Usually, I install only what I need, call it minimal installation: -Graphic Driver -Physx If you run videocard with HDMI you should update the Nvidia HD Audio too (usually Windows 7/10 installation have the Microsoft driver for it) If you run 3D, you should install/update che 3D Vision Driver. I never installed Nvidia game experience / nvidia update. ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Ok, thanks. I'll reinstall my drivers your way. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Well, it didn't help my problem, but I feel better the drivers are installed right now. Thanks. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I can offer a teamviewer session to check the system if you can accept that. gimme a PM then Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 So after running some tests. My fps vary between 15 and 60 even after lowering some settings. Can anyone think of any reason for the poor performance? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 DCS is very badly coded and not up to use the rendering power of a 1080ti. Even with a 1080 1.5 is struggeling to even constantly use 50%. 2.0 is much better, try nevada, there you get what your GPU can render. In 1.5 disable civilian traffic and reduce water and shadows, not because your gpu cant handle but because DCS cant handle your gpu. :D Sad but true. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 DCS is very badly coded and not up to use the rendering power of a 1080ti. Even with a 1080 1.5 is struggeling to even constantly use 50%. 2.0 is much better, try nevada, there you get what your GPU can render. In 1.5 disable civilian traffic and reduce water and shadows, not because your gpu cant handle but because DCS cant handle your gpu. :D Sad but true. Ok, I'll give it a go and report back. On a side note, if 2.0 is better at rendering as you say, I'm assuming when the new Caucasus map is released it'll be coded as 2.0 is now, thus being better than it's current incarnation? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Ok, I'll give it a go and report back. On a side note, if 2.0 is better at rendering as you say, I'm assuming when the new Caucasus map is released it'll be coded as 2.0 is now, thus being better than it's current incarnation? Yes normandy should make use of the available rendering power, and the caucasus upgrade to 2.0 should do the same then. Basically 1.5 is limited by how old the graphics engine is. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 DCS is very badly coded and not up to use the rendering power of a 1080ti. Even with a 1080 1.5 is struggeling to even constantly use 50%. 2.0 is much better, try nevada, there you get what your GPU can render. In 1.5 disable civilian traffic and reduce water and shadows, not because your gpu cant handle but because DCS cant handle your gpu. :D Sad but true. Nahh, my GPU is at 90+% constantly..with very few exceptions when the scenery allows. This used to be as you say but one of the patches must have fixed a lot, I now see at least my aging 980GTX being FULLY used, in 1.5 and 2.0. **I would have to downclock to static 4GHz or so to see how much that effects GPU usage. I could imagine below a certain threshold this will happen to some good extent. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Nahh, my GPU is at 90+% constantly..with very few exceptions when the scenery allows. This used to be as you say but one of the patches must have fixed a lot, I now see at least my aging 980GTX being FULLY used, in 1.5 and 2.0. **I would have to downclock to static 4GHz or so to see how much that effects GPU usage. I could imagine below a certain threshold this will happen to some good extent. I think there is a certain amount of truth in what Microvax said about 2.0 handling my setup better. I'm getting far better fps in 2.0 than I am in 1.5 with exactly the same settings in both. INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abburo Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Your 4790 processor is under-running. Take a google search to find out how overclock your little beast. As far as I know it could work with no effort at 4.6GHz. It would help a lot your TI. Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3ST3R Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Your 4790 processor is under-running. Take a google search to find out how overclock your little beast. As far as I know it could work with no effort at 4.6GHz. It would help a lot your TI. I've just an Amazon delivery of 2 200mm fans and a corsair H100i v2 which will be installed as soon as I get home from work. So I'll be overclocking later tonight. So will see what effects that has. INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wash_hoban Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Do your self a favour before overclocking use something like acronis to take a backup image of your system That way if it goes badly wrong you can restore your OS without too much trouble I use : intel burn test 20 runs (will make your CPU get as hot as it ever will) OCCT for 12 hours memtest for about 12 hours To make sure my system is stable (not OCed) , then overclock and do it all again to be sure good luck Still rockin Windows 7 64bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Do your self a favour before overclocking use something like acronis to take a backup image of your system That way if it goes badly wrong you can restore your OS without too much trouble I use : intel burn test 20 runs (will make your CPU get as hot as it ever will) OCCT for 12 hours memtest for about 12 hours To make sure my system is stable (not OCed) , then overclock and do it all again to be sure good luck +1 It is no bad idea to stresstest it before you oc. YOu can, if you know how, just boot Mint Linux off a USB drive and install Google's stresstestapp ( also the name of it ). Run that in Mint and you wont break any drives or data on your install. YOu can do this w/o installing any Linux, jut boot from USB , go to Software Manager and search "stresstestapp", click&install it, open console and start it with: stresstestapp -help that will give you instructions how to use that tool, pretty straight forward. If you dont know Linux that is maybe nothing to gets started with but maybe that triggers your interest in "other" systems..aka open your envelope wider edit*: sardu from http://www.sarducd.it will make you a Mint stick with ease..or any other swiss army like USB tool, try it out, its worth it Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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