Razor18 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Hi Guys, I don't know if it goes only with MAV on the other DDI, but when you press Cage with priority diamond on FLIR, it will switch to LST now. What is the purpose or reson behind it? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 It's an easy way to access LST without having to finger jab the DDIs. 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 You might be right, but a couple of updates back Cage Long was definitely responsible for toggling between FLIR and CCD, and Cage Short was I guess FLIR Boresight. I even reported that the long press is buggy (also SCS FWD Long for HMD was wrong), as it only kicked in after you released the button, no matter how long you held it, and not after 0.8 seconds. The long press was fixed in the meantime btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 RAID / FOV Short toggles between Wide and Narrow FOV RAID / FOV Long toggles between FLIR and TV mode Cage toggles LST, this is a new behavior, but it is correct. Boresight is accomplished with a double press of Undesignate / NWS. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Boresight is accomplished with a double press of Undesignate / NWS. Afaik single press to undesignate which will cause the TGP go to snowplough. Double press enables VVDSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 RAID / FOV Short toggles between Wide and Narrow FOV RAID / FOV Long toggles between FLIR and TV mode Cage toggles LST, this is a new behavior, but it is correct. Boresight is accomplished with a double press of Undesignate / NWS. Thaks. I remembered FOV Long would toggle White Hot/Black Hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Afaik single press to undesignate which will cause the TGP go to snowplough. Double press enables VVDSG. That's right, however I do not understand, why a double press needed, when a single pres (after Undesignating any tgt) would totally suffice to toggle between snowplow and VVSLV. In the Super Hornet this is the case, and makes even more sense to me. Maybe function misunderstood by the designers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 That's right, however I do not understand, why a double press needed, when a single pres (after Undesignating any tgt) would totally suffice to toggle between snowplow and VVSLV. In the Super Hornet this is the case, and makes even more sense to me. Maybe function misunderstood by the designers? But we are not in a superhornet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Finally, a wise comment. Anything meaningful beyond this? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furiz Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Finally, a wise comment. Anything meaningful beyond this? :lol: What can I say, you are talking about a different plane and a tpod that is probably updated and not the same as the one we have here, we use spanish version, while ATFLIR on our hornet, when we get it, doesn't even have to be the same version used on a superhornet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 All I'm saying is why double tap, if (after undesignating any TGT) one press would also sufficient for toggling. Regardless if C or E modell. It's just the KISS principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengou Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 It’s the way it is because, I presume, this is what the documentation and/or subject matter experts tell ED this is how it works. If you have contradictory information please share it. Otherwise they are simulating the systems as accurately as they can. The Hornet has lots of little avionics quirks and this may just be one of them. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) It’s the way it is because, I presume, this is what the documentation and/or subject matter experts tell ED this is how it works. If you have contradictory information please share it. Otherwise they are simulating the systems as accurately as they can. The Hornet has lots of little avionics quirks and this may just be one of them. "presume", "may be" ... hrm. If we all don't really know, what is wrong with asking? I, too, find this behaviour a tad bit ... strange. It is really no big deal, but it seems to be somewhat "backwards"? Or at least less intuitive? I mean, we have one button that performs one function in this context: undesignate. What do we gain, if we add another function, that even perform two tasks (1. undesignate + 2. enable VVSLV)? Why not keep it simple: 1 x for undesignate (no ambiguities here), and when in snowplough: 1 x to enable VVSLV? I could easily be convinced that the documentation says something like "to enable VVSLV, depress UNDESIGNATE twice". ED interprets this then as double-click, but it could also be very possible that my solution was actually meant. The only differens for the pilot is the timing of the two depresses - instead of click-click only click, click ... Edited June 15, 2020 by Flagrum spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi871 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 The current implementation is correct, pressing undesignate twice within one second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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