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Old 12-02-2019, 10:42 PM   #141
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Wicked...........Actually, I don't see your screenshot well enough. I'd have to zoom in. My vision is really poor and not getting any better at my age. Even as good as the DCS Hornet is I have to zoom in for everything.

How does the DCS Viper look zoomed way in? I'm used to zooming in and it wouldn't be a bother to do in DCS Viper as long as it's clear zoomed in. I use Trackir and a 1920x1080 single monitor. I use mostly all high graphic settings.

I wear glasses and can't use the Trackir zoom because then my glasses would be out of focus, so I have to use the sim zoom.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:38 PM   #142
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Wicked...........Actually, I don't see your screenshot well enough. I'd have to zoom in. My vision is really poor and not getting any better at my age. Even as good as the DCS Hornet is I have to zoom in for everything.

How does the DCS Viper look zoomed way in? I'm used to zooming in and it wouldn't be a bother to do in DCS Viper as long as it's clear zoomed in. I use Trackir and a 1920x1080 single monitor. I use mostly all high graphic settings.

I wear glasses and can't use the Trackir zoom because then my glasses would be out of focus, so I have to use the sim zoom.
If you have trouble with the Hornet and need to zoom in to see clearly, it will be so bad in the Viper you may not be able to use it. At least for the MFD’s. I can see the Hornet DDI’s and MPCD clearly at a glance. I don’t need to lean in at all. Whereas on the Viper I almost always have to zoom to see the vectors of the contacts. Even zoomed the lines and characters are faint. The only time I’ve seen them come close to the way they look in Wags videos is with the sun behind me and zoomed in. Even then they are still faint.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:47 PM   #143
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If you’re using 1920x1080 res for your monitor it might not be as difficult to see. I use 3840x1080 on my monitor which crams more detail into a smaller space. 1920x1080 gets less into the screen but makes what you do see larger so it’s possible it will be ok.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:29 AM   #144
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I know. That's why i've stayed with my monitor.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:22 AM   #145
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Have anyone tried with Reshade option on to see if it is brighter?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=255718
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:55 AM   #146
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Thanks for the link. I’ll install and try it tomorrow.
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:41 AM   #147
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This is what confuses me. Look at Wags mini update when he zooms in. I can read it easily. Is he using some fix you guys don't have yet? Yours doesn't look this good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
I'm also confused by this, because I'm running DCS on a full HD screen (not VR), with all settings maxed out and the F-16 MFDs doesn't look anywhere as clear as they do on Wags video. I really hope they have improved readability on their internal version that Wags was using when making this video, so that it will improve for us as well with the next update.
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:59 AM   #148
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I'm using TrackIR with an Acer Predator X34P and have no issues, whatsoever, to read the MFDs, leaning in a bit.

Testing a Rift S I was annoyed by its low resolution, but leaning in certainly didn't have any problems reading the MFDs, either. Given that the RL MFDs are only 4''x4'' and basically mounted above your knees I think they are pretty spot-on.
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I'm using TrackIR with an Acer Predator X34P and have no issues, whatsoever, to read the MFDs, leaning in a bit.

Testing a Rift S I was annoyed by its low resolution, but leaning in certainly didn't have any problems reading the MFDs, either. Given that the RL MFDs are only 4''x4'' and basically mounted above your knees I think they are pretty spot-on.

So your MFD's look like this? This is a real F-16, the camera used for the picture looks to be on top of the helmet and therefore not at true eye level.

Take a look at the second pic. Again another REAL F-16 though this one has the older monochrome MFD's. This one is on display at the Smithsonian. The camera used to take this pic is obviously older as there is blooming on the text in the MFD. Regardless it is VERY bright. If your system looks as clear as these please share you voodoo graphics settings because I can come nowhere close to the brightness and contrast of the MFD's in these pictures. Also would you mind posting a screen shot of your cockpit?


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Old 12-04-2019, 08:42 AM   #150
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My MFDs look like the do ingame right now. Could they use more brightness / contrast? Maybe. All I'm saying is "I don't have readability issues with them, and judging from the real displays I saw sitting in a real F-16, they seem spot-on to me".

Will post a leaned back and leaned in screenshot with some action on the MFDs if I find time besides trying out the JF-17 tonight
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