bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Hi fellow dcs-pilots, I hope you all are safe. I have a problem with hitting target using mavericks and liteningpod. I use the F-version of the MAV. litening pod on center pylon and I start from airfiled. The problem is that all MAVS miss their target with 20-30 meters. Every time!:joystick: I have watched EVERY tutorial on the subject on youtube and I cannot see what I do wrong. The lightening pod it locks perfectly on the target using point-track, and the MAVS seem get a good lock. If I skip the pod and only use the maverick seeker it works like perfectly. :helpsmilie: Cheers, Bandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmba Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Do you lase the target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I have a problem with hitting target using mavericks and liteningpod. I use the F-version of the MAV. litening pod on center pylon and I start from airfiled. The problem is that all MAVS miss their target with 20-30 meters. ... I cannot see what I do wrong. The lightening pod it locks perfectly on the target using point-track, and the MAVS seem get a good lock. If I skip the pod and only use the maverick seeker it works like perfectly. Please post a track Do you lase the target? The AGM-65F has an IR seeker. i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 post a track 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbessi Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Cause F version need IR acquisition. Targeting pod just point the seeker of the Maverick on the right spot but you need the seeker to lock on target in order to hit it. Have you tried lasing E version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 1, 2020 ED Team Share Posted April 1, 2020 Seems to be working fine for me. Please add a track replay we can all take a look thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeyrider Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 FWIW I just flew a mission with the exact same setup. All 4 mavs went exactly were I wanted them. Perhaps running the repair utility will help fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I believe the main issue is that players are using the TGP to acquire targets for the AGM-65F, a function that has not been declared operational by ED. Yes, the function almost works in that the MAV seeker does automatically slew to the VICINITY of the TGP designation, but the MAV and TGP LOS's do not exactly coincide in the current version of the OB. To use that function now, with TGP LOS slaved to a WP, requires the following awkward procedure: SOI to TGP DDI HSI: select WP then WPDSG to slave TGP LOS TGP acquire and designate target. MAV slews to target vicinity. SOI to MAV DDI. Undesignate (undesignates BOTH MAV and TGP). Slew MAV seeker and acquire valid target. Release weapon when in parameters. SOI back to TGP DDI Rinse and repeat. Two current features make this awkward. The MAV seeker and TGP LOS do not coincide close enough to allow the MAV to acquire the intended target. Undesignate applies to both the weapon and the TGP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu_69 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 MAV F does not home on the laser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramjet77 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Habu_69 I think your post 2 above sums this whole issue with TGP and Mav Fs perfectly. If this is how the real system actually operates I’m surprised any pilot would want to use that combination at all. I tried and tried but have now given up so hopefully as you say it’s WIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Maybe this will help when it comes. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4266842&postcount=183 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neversaykever Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Cause F version need IR acquisition. Targeting pod just point the seeker of the Maverick on the right spot but you need the seeker to lock on target in order to hit it. Have you tried lasing E version? That's exactly it. I just used the mavs right after the last update and out of four 65Fs I only missed once and it was my fault. Windows 10 Pro x64 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, 8700K @ 5.0GHz (Cooled by H150i Pro), 32GB DDR4 @3200, Asus Maximus X, TM Warthog with F-18 stick, TPR Rudder, Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Hi Again Thanks for your feedback. I attached the trackfile. Please note I use the IR-version. Will try the using laser instead. The most likely root cause is I am doing something wrong or my DCS installation is some how corrupt. Cheers, BanditTacview-20200331-235826-DCS.zip.zip Edited April 1, 2020 by bandit______ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 bandit the track file isn't visible to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) fixed it! sorry i am a noob when it comes to the forum As you can see in the track file I aim for the 4 T80. They survive without a scratch and there is 4 craters 20 meter from the tanks Edited April 1, 2020 by bandit______ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Not a Tacview replay. That's not what we're requesting. We're looking for a ".trk" file which is compiled by DCS itself, not Tacview. It's the file which allows for replays from inside the simulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 here is a trackfile from today. My problem remains. will try laser guidance now.noob_bandit.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 You never actually commanded any of the Mavericks to get a lock. They were just looking in the direction of the target when you fired them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 I press TDC depress. How do I get it to lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbies2003 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) I press TDC depress. How do I get it to lock? TDC press is correct but I suggest you visit HABU post on page 1 to see what your problem is. Guessing you are assuming that the Mav is following the pod exactly and that when you TDC press you are locking onto the tank which obviously is not happening. Even going through the HABU method you still must go to the mav page and lock it up to the correct target as the pod only gets you into the neighborhood. Now also keep in mind that TDC press is only if you have the optional method checked in the options. Otherwise it is TDC press and hold then slew and release TDC press when over the target to lock. I have the optional method enabled as I find it much easier/less annoying than having to hold the TDC press. Unless you are really hung up on doing it that way just suggest doing it Mav page only. Only time it doesn't work great for me is if the Mav sees something else close by it wants to lock on to when I TDC press. Other than that zero issues with using Mav F to kill targets. Edited April 1, 2020 by Stubbies2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 alright. thank you for takeing your time to help:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 you didn't have the TDC assigned to MAVF, thus TDC Press can't command a MAVF lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I can't watch the track now, but the MAVF needs to lock to something, otherwise launch will be inhibited. I'm aware that the seeker doesn't look exactly on the designated target (WIP I guess), but still, it needs to lock at something. I'm just asking because bandit_ says that he aimed for the T-80s and ended up with craters on the ground. What did the seekers lock onto? The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit______ Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 I think it is like Habu writes higher up in the thread, the TPOD does work so well yet with MAVS. I noticed when use max zoom on MAV seeker and TPOD, then i hit 11 out 12 missiles. The lock reticle flickers in a wierd way but lock seem to hold most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo52 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Habu_69 I think your post 2 above sums this whole issue with TGP and Mav Fs perfectly. If this is how the real system actually operates I’m surprised any pilot would want to use that combination at all. I tried and tried but have now given up so hopefully as you say it’s WIP. My time in 146 we never flew IR mavs outside of training. We took laser mavs in country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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